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Was Athens a democracy? It depends on how you look at it and what criteria you want to use. If you say that it wasn’t as inclusive as our democracy (eg women has no say) and therefore it wasn’t a democracy, that’s one take. But by that standard, Whitlam wasn’t democratically elected since the 1972 vote excluded 18-21 yr olds. The word means rule by the demos ie the people, the citizenry. By that standard it was a democracy since all Athenian citizens had a say, or at least the right to a say in all decisions. By the standards of the time, where the entire planet was either a monarchy or ruled by ‘the few’, Athens was revolutionary.
Was it the first democracy? I’m agnostic on that. It’s possible others existed before it although I think the evidence is a long way from convincing and more a case of people thinking it exists because they want it to exist. Again, it was the first in Europe and, more importantly, one of the influences on those societies that created modern democracy. Not the main influence, mind you. That was Rome which heavily influenced the US founders. Hence words like ‘Senate’ . But the legacy the Athenian democracy bequeathed was the view that the people can and should control their own fate, and the legacy of 480BC is that a free people fighting for their freedom will prevail over those fighting for a ruler.
But the bequest of Athens is not its democracy which in the end failed. It’s the art, literature, architecture, philosophy, science, history. But most importantly, it’s the notion of the individual who has inherent purpose but who also has obligations to the state and society in general.
Might I also suggest a reading of Pericles’ Funeral Oration. A great speech in and of itself recorded by Thucydides. It is suggested it was the inspiration for Lincoln’s Gettysburg address:
http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/education/thucydides.html