SR wrote:
"No transmission outdoors? Just like under 50s are safe?

What a crock".

Well if SR had done a modicum of checking....

But then SR doesn't do checking, does he? He does outraged assertions that what he wants to be true is indeed true, then, after shown to be wrong, follows up with 10 posts trying to extricate himself from yet another error.

The fruits of a little checking:

"Not a single case of COVID-19 in NSW has been transmitted in an outdoor setting, health authorities have confirmed."
http://www.9news.com.au/national/nsw-health-no-covid-transmission-confirmed-outdoors-during-pandemic/ea6b1847-21da-47cb-b580-d7600119a1f7

John Roskam of the Institute of Public Affairs wonders “what will remain of the Liberal Party at the end of the Covid-19 pandemic”. He thinks that it is uncertain that they will exist in anything but name.

Under Morrison, the Liberals have given up any pretence of fiscal responsibility. Pragmatism has trumped ideology. The Liberals have so lost any relationship to freedom that it is now difficult to put the words ‘Liberal’ and ‘freedom’ in a sentence.

Morrison’s government does not brook dissent. When Labor recently moved a motion condemning National’s George Christensen for expressing his objection to lockdowns and masks, Morrison and his gang (including the Nationals) agreed to the motion; Morrison saying, “My government does not support misinformation in any way, shape or form”.

The ‘misinformation being supported by respected, qualified scientists. The Liberals now, it seems, take the view that any opinions and beliefs other than theirs are misinformation, although they have never sought advice from anyone but public servants with dubious qualifications.

Roskam believes that there are many Liberals who agree with Christensen, but they don’t want to jeopardise their Ministerial careers under El Presidente Morrison. So they have accepted and even adopted the Labor tactics of authoritarianism to “cancel anyone who challenges the official orthodoxy”. ‘Misinformation is the label given to anything that doesn’t agree with what the government says.

Well said, ttbn.

ttbn,

So assuming all that to be true, who do you vote for next time around? It's all very well to wail and gnash teeth at what has happened to the Liberal Party, but if nothing changes, nothing will change.

So long as their belief that those right of centre have nowhere else to go proves correct, they'll continue to treat those who prioritise freedom with contempt.

So who do you vote for? Who gets the final preference - Lib or Lab?

mhaze,

As I have said here and at other times, I will do what I did at the last federal election and write "None of these" on the lower house paper, and concentrate on the Senate paper, hoping to be able to find 12 or whatever is that is required, without no party loyalties, unless, maybe, One Nation or the Liberal Democrats are listed in my state.

Now, I know that many people would think its daft not to have a vote, but why would I vote when I don't fancy any of them; and given our stupid preferential system if I voted for Santa Claus, the vote would eventually get down to party politicians. But, if more people refused to vote for the rubbish nominated, it would make a difference. However, I am responsible only for myself, my conscience, and my values.

I know most people won't do anything different from what they always do, and this reminds me of a movie I saw wherein a Nazi war criminal was telling a Jew and Mossad member how he held the Jewish people in contempt because they allowed four soldiers to escort hundreds of them at a time to the gas chambers. Forget the BS about how they thought they were going for a nice hot shower. They knew. But they gave up. And we are giving up too, cowering before politicians and public servants who are supposed to be serving us.

So, you are probably right. They will continue to "treat our freedoms with contempt" because we let them

What used to be the original conservative Liberal Party ended with Fraser and has since been hijacked by extremists, lobbyists and corporatists.

Every criticism they utter invariably includes references to "the left" but never to "the right" because there are no longer any groups to the right of what was once considered a moderate group.

They are now just another bunch of US Republican style neo-conservatives who use politics as a stepping stone to personal wealth and future secure employment. Most came from the "Young Liberals" who seem to be a group of white male privileged misogynists and desk-abusers waiting to take their turn at the top jobs.