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I'm Entitled To My Opinion!

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... studies need to be tested in the real world.
Foxy,
Wow, you're coming around, try do another jump !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 10 July 2021 8:45:26 PM
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"Are we really entitled to our opinions?"

This depends what one means by "entitled".
I looked it up:

Entitled = believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

Well, that being the definition, nobody is entitled: having and keeping one's opinions is our birthright, it was never granted to us by any others, it is not a privilege or a special treatment and we inherently deserve this without exception.

However, nobody is entitled to rob others of their opinions either.

Some intrusions into our body are considered despicable and criminal, rape being one example. If that is the case with intrusion into our bodies, then how more so with intrusions into our minds?!

If genitals are considered "private", then how more so our minds!
Those who consider it OK to intrude into other people's private minds and rob them of their opinions are worse than rapists. China attempts just this on an industrial scale (so was the Spanish Inquisition, but it is no more), so perhaps such people ought to be sent back to China where they belong.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:27:14 PM
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Of course people are entitled to their own opinions but they aren't entitled to their own "facts".

Opinions held in contradiction of hard undeniable facts may be interesting but are inherently worthless. Discarding some truths while hanging onto others or simply believing in something doesn't make it true.

From my experience, most people have a firm and fixed view of reality or the world and when challenged, rather than reassessing their opinion prefer to double-down and attack the messenger instead of the message. Some see this as a typical Amygdala brain response.
Posted by rache, Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:54:08 PM
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ttbn, individual, and mhaze,

This is for you:

" On this forum where you like to talk
There's an "awful woman" that you stalk
She's a "closed-minded" creature that you see
Not "open-minded" like you three

She's being blocked by a "close-minded" door
'Cause it's important to you to even the score
And like anything that is attacked
She continues to fight until she snaps

Perhaps the best thing for her to do
Would be to walk away from all of you."
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 11 July 2021 10:01:08 AM
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Foxy,

This particular spat started when I pointed out that you'd listed a bunch of men who you thought to have been validly accused and that you'd been rather selective in your list. That is, that you'd selected people in groups you dislike and 'exonerated' men in groups you favoured even to the extent of listing Prince Andrew for his Epstein links but ignoring Clinton's much greater Epstein links.

Basically I pointed out that you were being political in your assertions rather than 'believing all women'.

But then, instead of acknowledging the bias or defending the bias, you attempted to ignore the bias. And when I didn't let you get away with that, you threw this tantrum, basically demanding that your bias go uncommented on.

I know your self-image is one of being unbiased and so my proving otherwise pisses you off. The solution to that is to be less biased or accept the bias with good grace. But pretending it doesn't exist and that others accede to that pretence isn't going to happen.

"Perhaps the best thing for her to do
Would be to walk away from all of you."

or just try to do better.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 11 July 2021 2:31:04 PM
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Perhaps the best thing for her to do Would be to walk away from all of you."
Foxy,
No, because it wouldn't solve anything. I'd recommend to her to force her indoctrination aside & start looking at what's really happening out there.
Accept that others had experiences that no idealist opinion can nor should alter.
Accept that a level of education does not equal experience.
Stop dishing out snide remarks & none will come your way either.
Stop placing so much weight on some "educated" person's opinion & none on peoples' experiences. Stop believing that less educated people are somehow less knowledgeable.
If she does that she could become a valued contributor.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 11 July 2021 2:39:27 PM
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