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Thirty-one years of Lithuanian dreams

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Thirty-one years ago, on March 11, 1990, the Supreme Council of the Republic of Lithuania declared independence. As inevitable as it seems today, many countries were very far from supporting this outcome.
Thus, Moscow said the action was meaningless, and the administration of George H W Bush worried it could trigger the collapse of what it saw as a new international order made possible with Mikhail Gorbachev at the helm of the USSR.
https://balticword.com/thirty-one-years-of-lithuanian-dreams/
Posted by Adomas, Friday, 12 March 2021 5:49:08 PM
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Goodness me - someone has been a busy little beaver decrying Lithuania's regaining its Independence in the 1990's. We're all aware
that there was a shroud of silence over the Soviet Regime's occupation of the Baltic States by the West. But things changed under Gorbachev and "Perestroika" where given the chance the Balts voted with their feet. The chain of where they linked hands for freedom
showed the world - they wanted their freedom back!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 13 March 2021 2:13:31 PM
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It needs to be remembered that Lithuania (indeed all the Baltic states) have only been free and independent for short, atypical periods over the past ~300 years. Once during the interbellum years while its main adversaries - Russia, Germany and Poland - were weakened by the loss of wars and the current 30 year period when its imperial overlords in Moscow lost the ability and willingness to defend their imperial lands.

Even during the 20 year interbellum years, Lithuania was not really whole in that Vilnius was occupied by Poland and nor was it really free since, following a short period of democracy, it was under authoritarian rule for most of the period.

The fact is that Lithuania exists at the discretion of Russia which is currently too weak to enforce its dominance in the region. As such, Lithuania independence relies utterly on the good graces of NATO and therefore the US. Were the US to declare a lack of interest in protecting the independence of the Baltic states, the current Russian regime would snuff that independence out in short order.

The Pax Americana is the only thing that allows these nations to exist and tweeking the noses of their protector is hardly good policy.

Adomas writes :"As inevitable as it seems today, many countries were very far from supporting this outcome."

In one of the more shameful episodes of the Whitlam years, in 1974 Australia recognised the legitimacy of the Soviet conquest the Baltic states. There was no reason or advantage in doing so other than to curry favour with the Russians and appease the communist wing of the ALP.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 14 March 2021 6:15:42 AM
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Let's just do to Lithuania what has been done to Australia: hand it to the Chinese and let China transmigrate millions of its people there.

They can do what they did in Australia: put all the signs at the airport in Chinese and English, where the Chinese is for the Chinese and the English is for everybody else. It works: they did it at Sydney Airport - albeit Sydney is a Chinese city.

It's the proper multicultural thing to do!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 14 March 2021 8:28:21 AM
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Through the centuries Lithuanians have managed to maintain
their culture and identity. Invaders came and went. And
yet today - Lithuania still exists and through sheer
stubborness will continue to do so.

If we look at England's occupation of Wales and Scotland -
and yet the Welsh are still Welsh, and the Scots are still Scottish.
You can not destroy centuries of history and culture.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 14 March 2021 11:58:37 AM
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Foxy,

Wanna bet?

Wait until the Chinese get there!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 14 March 2021 12:18:06 PM
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