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Could you live with COVID-19, always?

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As the global pandemic involving COVID-19 worsens, lockdowns across states and nations have gone into effect while hospitals in hard-hit areas remain in a state of constant crisis.

16.5 million people have been affected with COVID-19, with many dying internationally and there are concerns that vaccines will not be provided to those in remote or very poor areas.

As humans deal with the day-to-day realities of this worldwide disease, many are simply waiting for the pandemic to end, but no-one knows when.

If COVID-19 was permanent though, could you live with it? How would you cope? What about your personal freedoms? Would you overthrow a Government? What would you do to survive?
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 15 February 2021 5:32:45 PM
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How will we cope ? We'll soon find out, don't be too impatient !
Posted by individual, Monday, 15 February 2021 10:24:19 PM
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Vaccines will raise our survival rate from 99.7% to 99.9% and we'll be told by pollies the vaccine has saved us from the 'deadly mutant' killer-virus', so vote for us!
Why when an infant is very occassionally taken it's held up as proof of virulence but you don't hear to many of these shouted from rooftops: http://tinyurl.com/1aunt7xi
What a tragedy since we found the virus is as fatal as a bad 'flu and haven't reacted accordingly but moved from a suppression to an elimination strategy
I wonder how we could do better: http://tinyurl.com/1ai2algl
Pollies have been having a marvellous time scaring our pants off: http://tinyurl.com/1tvc7fcy
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 1:08:04 AM
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I'd move to China where it doesn't exist.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 6:36:26 AM
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We are living with it now. All we can hope for is that politicians one day get the message that lockdowns don't work, but people need to work if the economy and society is to survive. China must be feeling very smug watching what their virus is doing to the West.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 7:31:43 AM
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And the reign of terror and fear by that evil man in Victoria has to stop, too.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 7:49:49 AM
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ttbn: You must be living in some sort of alternative reality, because here in real world Australia we have direct evidence that lockdowns DO work!!

All states besides Vic and NSW managed to ELIMINATE (not just suppress) the virus by use of lockdowns that lasted less than a couple of months.

And once you have ELIMINATED the virus people can go (and currently are going) about their lives almost as per usual with the only main exceptions that they:
1) Can't go overseas - which the majority don't do anyway in any given year.
2) Nor go interstate when the other state doesn't have a grip on the virus (looking at you Victoria with your inept government), but most people don't go interstate much in any given year- and if they do it usually isn't for very long anyway
3) Nor go to a local region within your own state where there is an outbreak - but these regional outbreaks restrictions are usually very short lived (the one we had here in Queensland was just three days)
4) During times of outbreak be possibly required to wear a mask in public - which may slightly inconvenience you but is not really an inordinate demand considering that many people in many occupations have to regularly wear one for hours on end (eg: stone masons, surgeons, nail salon workers, farmers spraying chemicals, et.)
5) Leave contact tracing details when going somewhere where more than a few people are gathered- this takes just mere seconds to do
6) Can't attend really massive crowd events in the numbers that they use to - though they still can go to large public gathering just at reduced numbers
7) Try to maintain 1.5 to 2 meters distance from others (non-family members) in public - but who wants to be closer than this to complete strangers anyway?

These few things are not too much as ask for in exchange that we remain virus free.
Posted by thinkabit, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 8:42:31 AM
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Here's one or to thinkabit about:

Why are we heading towards a trillion dollar national debt?
Why is domestic violence so much higher?
Why are mental health services being so stretched
http://tinyurl.com/1e3ox64n

It's not Ebola virus. Corona has more than a 99% survival rate and were all likely to get it over the years, just like flu (even with vaccination, yes).

The reaction to it in Australia, including locking citizens out of their own country with arbitrarily low caps on returnees (and talks of locking them out altogether!) is simply HYSTERICAL!
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 9:11:34 AM
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Nathan,

I think it would be just as easy to 'live with COVID-19' as with any other range of viruses - Ebola, Elyssa, Zika, Swine Fever, Chicken Fever, Ross River flu - a bit like the way we learned to live with bubonic plague and small-pox.

Anyway, a lot of us haven't got Covid yet, so we're probably immune, tough, part of that herd, we've beaten it.

Yeah, right.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 9:45:19 AM
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Thinkabit, lockdowns 'eliminate' the virus, for awhile (ha!) but what of their cumulative health effects in the long-run? Given the tiny proportion of the population for whom Corona is fatal, and given the even smaller proportion for whom vaccination will make the difference between life and death or ongoing illness, they are a hysterical response. http://tinyurl.com/3ra32od8

Influenza, which is less discriminating than Covid about the demographic it kills, is something we're all likely get at some point. with or without vaccination. So it will be with Corona. No overthrow of governments or stuff like that, we'll always live with it. The panicked response right now is because Covid is novel, but the novelty is receding.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 9:59:30 AM
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Lockdowns are really working a treat in Victoria with the most draconian lockdowns - 800 deaths. The entire rest of he country with saner solutions - 59 deaths.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 11:54:24 AM
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The reason there were 800 deaths in Victoria was a shifty deal between "Someone" in Victoria and a failed Kings X bouncer who started his third security Company. His first two went into admin I assume not paying any tax. The Company however was supposed to be "Indigenous" as in a famous footballer on the board.
They got 30 million from Victorian taxpayers and got the virus from security personal to family working in Aged Care. That caused 800 deaths of the elderly!
A hand picked judge ensured this would be be hushed up and now we have the gold standard hypocrite Chinese Andrews claiming to have gold standard quarantine. Even our hopeless media have been forced to ask some questions rather than praising the dear leader.
I remember some idiot here posting how badly Sweden acted but now it seems they got no worse without any Nazi tactics by their politicians, amazing!
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 7:43:54 PM
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