Joe Biden's Inauguration: 4am Sydney time/3am Brisbane time, Thursday 21 January, marks the culmination of the free and fair election that Trump failed to thwart.

Trump has organised 2 distractions hours before the Inauguration:

1. A military parade at nearby Andrews Air Force Base to which a Trumpster crowd is invited. The crowd are due to assemble from 11.15pm (Sydney Time) Wednesday 20 January. Trump may well do more crowd incitement. Trump's timing allows several hours for this crowd to travel to Washington, to do their worst during the Noon (US time) Inauguration.

2. Instead of attending the Inauguration (as is customary) Trump will fly from Andrews Air Base to one of his palaces, just north of Miami Florida. This will establish an alibi before the likely riot in Washington. It is also possible Trump may incite a crowd in the Miami area.

Additional scenarios to Trumpster violence in/around Washington are Trumpster Riots of Opportunity in US State Capitals and other major US cities. These may happen while most US security attention is focused on Washington. http://www.9news.com.au/world/fbi-vetting-guard-troops-in-dc-amid-fears-of-insider-attack/374127e2-e1dd-4685-9216-33b0c8660186

If any violence happens this will dominate Aussie morning news, on Thursday 21 January. The most sustained reporting for us, is likely to be "ABC America World News" 12.30pm Sydney time, on SBS TV. This will be immediately followed, at 1pm, by "PBS NewsHour" on SBS TV.

Here's hoping nothing violent happens.

More see http://www.9news.com.au/world/joe-biden-inauguration-explainer-date-what-to-expect-how-to-watch-everything-to-know/ef3a5c33-a7a7-4e2b-9d77-1471daa33e2a

"Here's hoping nothing violent happens."

Oh! Go on.

Hi Issy

What do you mean Muchacho?

Do you expect violence following Trump's Andrews Air Base Rally from 12 midnight (Sydney Time) today

or perhaps even want it?

Pete, maybe one of the avgas jockeys will "go rogue" and drop a nuke on Capitol Hill.. and another shoots down the 'Don' en route to Florida...problem solved !

Hi Albie

Even Trump (flying back to Florida in Air Force One) wouldn't deserve to be shot down. Also noting 20+ other people would likely be in the jet and a large crashing jet tends to kill people on the ground.

Washington DC is at the moment hypersensitive - so even a routine housefire, somewhere in Greater Washington area of 10 million people, might set off Inauguration Security alarm bells.

Pete

Plantagent, find out the politics of the murderer of Martin Luther King and you will know the Party of violence in the USA. Trump has named the 22 January the Sanctity of life Day, hardly a day of riots.

Well I wrote "Here's hoping nothing violent happens." in starting this thread and that was happily met.

But it seems many Far Right Extremists (especially QAnon) expected Trump to dream up some strategy to extend his Presidency. Some of them are angry about Trump not doing that and are holding their fire potentially for another day.

In that regard see 5 minutes 20 seconds of this PBS NewsHour video on the Washington D.C. "Mall" hours after the Inauguration Swearing-In
(17:40 to 23 minutes) from http://youtu.be/TkjgpOwXIYs?t=17m40s

Expect more Far Right Extremist future activity once US Security's guard drops a notch.

Josephus,

According to Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.#Assassination_and_aftermath

As it says,

"Two months after King's death, James Earl Ray — who was on the loose from a previous prison escape — was captured at London Heathrow Airport while trying to leave England on a false Canadian passport. He was using the alias Ramon George Sneyd on his way to white-ruled Rhodesia ...."

A White supremacist seeking sanction under a White-supremacist regime.

Yes, there's an indication of which is the Party of Violence. I'm puzzled why you raised this as an example ?

Joe

Hi Joe

Yes, he is more than a little strange. runner had a virulent disdain for the Born, purportedly out of concern for the unBorn.

It looks like this American extremist "Jose", from Phoenix, Arizona, sees himself as standing in for runner.

Hi Pete,

You're surely not suggesting ht 'Runner' IS actually 'Josephus' ?!

I suspect that the idiot-Right will try to downplay Trump's treason in future months.

But I wonder if there has ever been a time in history when the most powerful person in the world at a particular time - maybe Khufu, Megalexandros, one of the Caesars, Genghiz Khan, Timur, Napoleon - has tried to overthrow his (it has always been 'his', hasn't it?) successor government ?

I don't think we've heard the last of Trumpf, no matter how much we might crave for it.

Joe

Martin Luther King's murderer was a member of the Democrats.

Hi Joe

Nah. I'm suggesting some people have a sincere mission to be the resident anti-abortion guy on a Forum.

I wonder where runner got to.

Yes the rightwingers that existed before and during Trump's Presidency will explain away Trump's Insurrection and continue to compare it with BLM protests.
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Re "I wonder if there has ever been a time in history when the most powerful person in the world at a particular time...has tried to overthrow his (it has always been 'his', hasn't it?) successor government?"

Yes there has been such a time:

After Napolean (hithertoo most powerful) escaped from Elba (in the Mediterranean) he effectively mounted a coup that unseated the existing French Government of Louis XVIII. Then Napoleon returned to leading the most powerful national (French) army, before being defeated by a coalition of armies at Waterloo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon#Hundred_Days

I agree Trump is likely to incite more violence.

Hiya Bazz

What of it?

Jefferson Davis, President of the Conferate States, and champion of Slavery, was also a Democrat.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis

Meanwhile Lincoln was a true Republican who would be aghast at how Trump has perverted the once noble Republican Party.

Plant, nothing whatsoever, just that someone asked the question.
Couldn'd care less myself. Just happened to know the answer.
Do you care ?

Hi Bazz

Not really.

As Biden's (first?) 4 years will reveal there are good Democrats and bad Democrats.

There is no monopoly on goodness in any political faction.

Regards

Pete

Bazz,

Southern Democrats, dumb-arse. Back in those days, 1968, they were much more clearly racists and white-supremacists, still burning crosses. Southern republicans have taken over their mantle.

Joe

...QAnon FOLLOWERS REEL AS BIDEN INAUGURATED

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-qanon/no-plan-no-q-nothing-qanon-followers-reel-as-biden-inaugurated-idUSKBN29P2VO 21 January 2021 reports:

"SAN FRANCISCO/NY - For three years, adherents of the sprawling QAnon conspiracy theory awaited a so-called Great Awakening, scouring anonymous web postings from a shadowy “Q” figure and parsing statements by [Trump] whom they believed to be their champion.

On [20Jan2021], they grappled with a harsh reality check: Trump had left office with no mass arrests

or other victories against the supposed cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophile cannibal elites,

especially Democrats, he was ostensibly fighting.

Instead, [Biden] was calmly sworn into office, leaving legions of QAnon faithful struggling to make sense of what had transpired.

In one Telegram channel with more than 18,400 members, QAnon believers were split between those still urging others to ‘trust the plan’ and those saying they felt betrayed. “It’s obvious now we’ve been had. No plan, no Q, nothing,” wrote one user.

Some messages referenced theories that a coup was going to take place before the end of Inauguration Day. Others moved the goalposts again, speculating that Trump would be sworn into office on 4Mar2021.

“Does anybody have any idea what we should be waiting for next or what the next move could be?” asked another user, who said they wanted to have a ‘big win’ and arrests made.

Jared Holt, a disinformation researcher at the Atlantic Council, said he had never before seen disillusionment in the QAnon communities he monitors at this scale.

“It’s the whole ‘trust the plan’ thing. Q believers have just allowed themselves to be strung from failed promise to failed promise.”

“The whole movement is called into question now.”

A poll with more than 36,000 votes conducted in another QAnon Telegram channel before Biden’s swearing-in ceremony showed that more than 20% of respondents predicted nothing would in fact happen and Biden would become president, according to the Q Origins Project, which tracks the movement.

However, 34% believe “the military & Trump have a plan coming in the near future,” even while acknowledging the transfer of presidential power.

JARRING REVERSAL

The anonymous person or people known as “Q”

MORE TO FOLLOW

FROM ABOVE

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-qanon/no-plan-no-q-nothing-qanon-followers-reel-as-biden-inaugurated-idUSKBN29P2VO

"started posting the vague predictions that would become the basis of the QAnon movement on message board 4chan in 2017, claiming to be a Trump administration insider with top secret security clearance.

The number of followers exploded with the arrival of the coronavirus last year, providing a sense of community missing in many people’s isolated pandemic lives by encouraging participants to “do their own research” and contribute findings to the crowd.

Q interpreters have become mini-celebrities in their own right, spreading the gospel on mainstream sites like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube and raising money with appeals to charity or merchandise sales, before the social media platforms cracked down late last year.

Among them was Ron Watkins, who was among a small group of movement leaders who stepped up their public activity after Trump’s loss in the Nov. 3 election, as the “drops” from Q slowed and then stopped.

The longtime administrator of 8kun, an unmoderated forum where Q posted alongside violent extremists and racists, Watkins adopted the cryptic tone of Q in the past two months on Twitter and then Telegram.

At the same time he positioned himself as an expert on election fraud, getting retweeted by Trump and interviewed by Trump-favored media outlets such as One America News Network.

In one of the most jarring apparent reversals on Wednesday, Watkins appeared to admit defeat, posting: “We have a new president sworn in and it is our responsibility as citizens to respect the Constitution regardless of whether or not we agree with the specifics.”

“Please remember all the friends and happy memories we made together over the past few years.” He said he was working on a new venture, but gave no further details.

On TheDonald.win, a reconstituted version of the Reddit forum “The Donald” that long served as an online home for Trump loyalists, users turned on Watkins and accused him of being a “shill” and a CIA plant.

Other fringe groups, including neo-Nazis, said they intended to capitalize on the disarray by stepping up recruitment from among QAnon followers."

ENDS

Biden now threatens another war with Hamas and Iran with Israel.
http://www.rebelnews.com/new_biden_admin_picks_a_fight_with_israel_trudeau_caves_on_keystonexl_cancellation?fbclid=IwAR2HpQCy5ziuflhrfHC63UjzqylR6uz-CwUGk4WkKnxC_WNJg78iG0iKVqY

Articles of impeachment against Joe Biden have been filed.
http://www.theblaze.com/news/rep-marjorie-greene-officially-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-president-biden?utm_content=buffer24afd&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR2SPDqYU3enMtZvNrOav9T4alR3xLBVz700f8h1f5aWzRH0wWAl8Z9b0RY

Pelosi a supposed Catholic gets rejected by the Church because of her attitudes to abortion.
ttp://www.mrctv.org/blog/pelosi-gets-lectured-her-archbishop-over-her-anger-pro-life-voters?fbclid=IwAR0Fab8ACMVRGaN0DvvbGBXuBExibno-8jZg9FVhVFNFkmHhWD9VoN5-puE

"Articles of impeachment against Joe Biden have been filed."

By an attention-seeking dim wit.

Could you believe this about riots in Portland?
http://bongino.com/we-dont-want-biden-we-want-revenge-antifa-trashes-democrat-headquarters-in-portland/?fbclid=IwAR2HCNrcRPV7wbMo3fUSqGGq1VK65OUarKqTDYSHenlA9iW5R21JVdkZBAs

Hi Issy

True when you say articles of impeachment against Joe Biden filed "By an attention-seeking dim wit."

and predictably she's a new GOP Rep and "blond joke" :)

http://www.theblaze.com/news/rep-marjorie-greene-officially-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-president-biden

Cheers

Hi Is Mise,

Yes:

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000007563393/portland-protests-inauguration.html

I couldn't see any buildings burning, although there seemed to be a lot of smoke.

The 'Left' has its idiots, just as the Right does, different people who believe in different versions of Armageddon, the End, the Opportunity for a New Beginning, End of Days, etc., etc. i.e. short-cuts to heaven.

Thank god for the 'sensible centre' policies of Biden/Harris.

Joe

Hiya Jose

Unlike your America, here in Australia, birth control is relatively uncontroversial.

Policies/attitudes toward birth control Here are Not a litmus test for a politician's goodness of godliness.

In Australia most politicians do not wear Religion on their Sleave.

Hi Issy

Re http://bongino.com/we-dont-want-biden-we-want-revenge-antifa-trashes-democrat-headquarters-in-portland/ "ANTIFA celebrated by trashing the headquarters of the Democrat Party in Portland"

This is cooborated by http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-inauguration-portland-prote-idUSKBN29Q0H9 of JANUARY 21, 2021

"(Reuters) - Anti-government and anti-fascist protesters in Portland and Seattle vandalized a Democratic Party office and other buildings and scuffled with police on Wednesday, protesting against President Joe Biden’s inauguration.

People dressed in black and with their faces covered broke windows and the glass door at the Democratic Party of Oregon business office in Portland, spray-painting an anarchist symbol over the party sign, video posted on social media showed.

“We don’t want Biden. We want revenge for police murders, imperialist wars, and fascist massacres,” read a banner they marched under."
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Shows that there are dangerous far-Left Extremists in Portland and Seattle

which doesn't excuse pro-Trump far-Right Extremists breaking into the Capitol, Washington D.C.

Regards

Pete

Josephus

Why have you decided NOT to make comments about abortion in a current OLO article/thread about abortion?

That article/thread being Greg Bondar's "...[Trump] has done as much to defend innocent unborn children" at

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=21281

AND

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=21281

It's only been a week since Trump left office and already just about everyone has forgotten him and his clown-based presidency.

Did I just hear someone say "Trump who?"?

Hi Mopi

Trump will again be close to the centre of attention in the runup to the Senate stage of his Impeachment Trial early Feb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_impeachment_trial_of_Donald_Trump#Opening_statements

Also Trump's more extreme supporters may have violent riots or other plans cooked up. eg:

- QAnon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

- the militay and police connected Oath Keepers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers

- then there's a whole host of other groups and hangers-on connected by the dark web,

- not to mention lone "wolves"

All claiming to be Trump Loyalists.

We haven't seen the last of Circus-Führer Trump.

Gun and rifle shops have banded together to refuse Biden supporters weapons and ammunition as Biden wants to remove the second amendment from the Constitution.
http://www.truenewshub.com/gab/missouri-gun-shop-refuses-to-sell-weapons-ammo-to-biden-supporters-and-theyre-very-upset-national-file/

http://howafrica.com/guns-selling-out-in-us-ahead-of-bidens-inauguration/

Josephus,

That's a slight exaggeration, your link mentions only one of the many thousands of gun shops and dealers in the USA.

There are ~14,869 more gun stores in America than grocery stores. Specifically, there are 51,438 gun retailers and 36,536 grocery stores.
There are almost as many gun dealers in America as gas stations. "There are a total of 129,817 gun dealers in the country, which include retail stores (51,438), “collectors” (61,562), pawn shops (7,356), and importers and manufacturers. Meanwhile, there are 143,849 gas stations.
There are more than twice as many gun stores in America as McDonalds restaurants. There are only 14,098 McDonalds.
American gun companies made 5.5 million new guns in 2010 and 95% of them were sold to Americans.
These ~5 million guns weren’t nearly enough to satisfy American demand for guns in 2010, so an additional 3.3 million guns were imported."
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/more-gun-stores-in-america-than-grocery-stores-2012-12?r=US&IR=T

Thats terrible Jose

I was hoping your whole House of Reps and Senate would get together to repeal the Second Amendment.
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Thanks Issy

For those stats on the tragically large number of American gun stores, dealers and new guns.

What a sick society.

More see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#List

plantagenet,

America will never get guns off the street simply because it is every American's right to take the law into his or her own hands.

And I doubt if it will ever change in the case of the US.

plantagenet,

Here's another link
http://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
The US is about seventh in the world for gun deaths, mostly suicides, but first in gun ownership, now ain't that strange?

Biden will not attempt to get around the Second Amendment because he has sworn to uphold the Constitution.

Opinion,

"America will never get guns off the street simply because it is every American's right to take the law into his or her own hands."

That is an outright untruth.

It is every American's legal right to defend themselves, just as it is every Australian's legal right to do the same.

Hi Mopi and Issy

You're both right.

"Right to defend ourselves" via gun ownership it too ingrained in America's 1700s War of Independence militia and 1800s cowboy history/mythology.

Biden might attempt to limit some aspects of gun ownership, maybe limiting handgun, Assault Rifles and machinegun ownership http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden#Gun_policy

But he would realise actually repealing the Second Amendment:

- is too ambitious,

- would invite a growth in extremist reactions, and

- drive, even moderate voters towards the Republicans, especially before the 2024 elections.

plantagenet,

"America will never get guns off the street simply because it is every American's right to take the law into his or her own hands."

Surely you don't think that that piece of idiocy is right?

As I posted earlier the right to self-defence is almost exactly the same in Australia and the USA, it has nothing to do with gun ownership and in both countries, a firearm may be used for such a purpose and the legal position is still much the same.

Is Mise,

In other words, you're saying that people may - may - be able to buy a firearm in the US, but - no more than here - cannot use it for improper purposes ? Reasonable self-defence may be one legitimate purpose, but that would be very restrictively defined ?

Joe

Is Mise,

OK OK you win. Just for you I'll change that to:

"America will never get guns off the street simply because it is every American's right to shoot someone indiscriminately."

There, happy now?

Hi Issy

We could debate American gun issues till the cows come home. Note my contribution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Joe_Biden#Gun_policy

Fortunately we in Australia are not like them legally, historically, mythologically or politically.

Cheers

Pete

Pete,

I wasn't talking about gun issues per se but about the right to self=defence, which is much the same in both countries.

Opinion,

That's not right either the law on murder and assault with a weapon is also much the same in both countries.