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Should we accept China as big Brother/

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Should Australia give in to China's CCP and rationalize their control of the people is the way to go for society or should we resist their advances?

http://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6222034700001?fbclid=IwAR2efWO9hck0UEHCbg0n_g7mFX9FD30y4eVgReMVc6Ob0d8_oOL2cW5G7Ec
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 2:23:52 PM
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No! We rather die!

And we must prepare accordingly so if China invades and we are unable to stop them, then all Australia should be mined with nuclear dirty bombs, making it unlivable to humans and of no use to China.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 3:25:06 PM
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Yuyutsu,

You are only saying no because you are Taiwanese and still fighting the Chinese Civil War.

I think it is inevitable that Australia will be absorbed into a Chinese Empire run by the Chinese Communist Party, on condition of course that Soot Morrison is offered up as a human sacrifice.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 3:49:38 PM
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You must be joking!
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 4:29:23 PM
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Now that our superpower and Ali in America is surrendering to China should we resist or submit?

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=tucker+carlson+on+chinese+professor&docid=608017419381968707&mid=87E72E6AFCE8B97D336087E72E6AFCE8B97D3360&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 4:43:21 PM
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ttbn,
This is not a joke; Biden is aligning America with China and the Media is accepting this as inevitable. That is why Pelosi is assuring Trump goes permanently by making sure he stays out of Politics by impeachment.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2020/12/chinese-professor-we-have-people-at-the-top-of-americas-core-inner-circle-of-power/
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 5:15:12 PM
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Why are people dropping their guts these days ?

No, of course we fight to the death. We help our allies in Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Thailan, India, Indonesia etc. well before it comes to that.

Leave the capitulations to the Village Idiot.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 5:16:00 PM
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Foul-Mouth,

Or should I say Comrade Foul-Mouth?

Tell them everything will be alright if they accept the yin and yang of Xi.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 5:23:39 PM
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loudmouth2,
I thought so Biden is the village idiot! Have a listen to Biden on his relationship with China. China paid big money to Hunter to attract the Bidens to align with China.
http://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=856814408388716
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 5:37:38 PM
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Josephus,

You should visit Sydney. Half the population is Chinese.

We have all sorts of Chinese: Chinese-Australians, Chinese-Chinese, non-Australian-Chinese, un-Australian-Chinese, and the list goes on.

So Josephus, on behalf of all of us here downunder I'd like to send you a big Aussie "Ni Hao Mate!"
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 5:45:19 PM
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It must weigh on Biden & Harris to know how much they depend on the support of crook people & parasites !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 5:46:40 PM
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Mr. O, I worked for 22 years as a sales representative and every week visited stores in the city of Sydney. Just travel on the train to Chatswood, Hurstville or Parramatta. Our Company used China as a manufacturing place for our products and like all Australian manufacturers we sourced from China and they expected to be paid in US Dollars.

Joe Biden during Obama's Presidency had many American manufacturers move to China. Joe Biden is a weak president and China will control him. China has spies in all the developing industries especially the tech industries. China used the Media and worked hard to remove Trump as he threatened their agenda of "ONE WORLD ORDER".

Watch how they will use the Media in Australia to unseat Scott Morrison. They want to reverse the trends in Australia to buy Australian made and owned. They have stooges in Australia that condemn Scott Morrison for placing the responsibility on China for the Covid. Hence the huge tariffs on our products.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:04:37 PM
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China wants reversal of Trump laws:
http://welovetrump.com/2020/12/04/director-of-intelligence-ratcliffe-china-is-targeting-members-of-congress-12-times-the-frequency-of-iran/

Biden and Obama overlooked and allowed China to control all the areas of the China Sea, and move on South Asia.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 7:27:55 PM
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Nobody's seriously proposing we accept China as Big Brother.

Perhaps a better question is:
Should we accept strawman threads?
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 9:42:23 PM
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I mentioned this braggadocio of China's about their friends in high places some time ago. I think that the claim was just braggadocio. It's highly unlikely that they would have leaked the video if it were true.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:03:21 PM
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Dear Joe,

Thank you, no one could have presented this better.

We and our friends will fight, whether or not America is included, then we either prevail or die, either we shall win and remain free on our land or we die and be free in heaven: never capitulate to the enemies of God!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 10:07:35 PM
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I posted this thread to find the alliances of people on this Forum. We have people like Paul Keating and Keven Rudd saying we are treating China poorly. When in reality it is China who is acting poorly.

Since millions of dissenting voices have been closed down in America, and links I have previously used coming up "not available". This is a Chinese strategy to silence dissenters, now watch how those voices are punished in America, the supposed Land of the FREE!

They will not just go after those that entered the Capital Building but also those that support the values of Trump and American independence from China, WHO and the Climate Conspiracy, promotion of the Race conflict and Religion.

We have the same agenda working in Australia to attempt to remove by Laws thought difference from that held by an Leftist view of a diverse society and opinion.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 3:29:27 AM
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Josephus,

What do you think of The Forum's pro-China camp which includes Foul-Mouth, Foxy, david f, etc?

I think Foul-Mouth is a Chinese operative or collaborator whose purpose is to promote the views and interests of the Beijing mob. Have you noticed how he is always trying to draw our attention away from the Chinese and making out that the Chinese never do anything wrong?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 3:58:01 AM
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Should WE accept. WE are not the U.S, and the question has arisen from what a foreign country might or might not do, not Australia.

Josephus says that "I posted this thread to find the alliances of people on this Forum". Alliance to what? The post, with a reference to an entire day's session of Sky News, not any particular item is, for those who bothered to plough through the thing to get to what stirred Josephus up in the first place, about America and what people think Biden will do. Nothing about Australia or anything that Morrison will do.

Now that Americans seem to have lost the plot altogether, and demonstrated that they have very little in common with Australia or Australians when it comes to politics and public behaviour, we need to step back a little. We have good relationships with just about every country in the world, except China. Our history is nothing like America's. They broke away from the Crown using armed force; they fought among themselves in a Civil War. Now they are fighting among themselves again. All those posters who have been unnaturally fascinated by America ever since Trump became president (both sides of politics) have been at it for so long they are carrying on as though Australia is part of America.

It is now clear that America is going to be too occupied with itself and its own problems to be much use to us. Time for us to concentrate on ourselves, our defence our production, and allies and trading parties in our own region and members of our Commonwealth.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 8:30:48 AM
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Mr. O the ideology is bigger than the heads of CCP, it is all those who cannot accept different values with grace without laws and political violence. A Free society means free to hold to personal beliefs, which is something we do not witness in China. We are now witnessing in America by Democrats, the dissenting media platforms are closed and removed, and the owners jailed.

As of today joe Biden is dividing America by Race by supporting only the black small business with grants. This panders to the communist BLM that Kamila Harris supports.
http://thepostmillennial.com/watch-joe-biden-says-he-will-only-prioritize-non-white-male-owned-businesses-for-aid
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 8:43:28 AM
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Americ stands on the brink of a Civil War.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PFC3f3uqmE
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 8:26:39 PM
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The Covid 19 virus is part of China's attempt to bring in dependence on Governments for survival. The virus is life threatening in itself, but the Police behavior under orders from Government is threatening arrest and fines to bring about submission to Government. Whereas Governments should be the representative voice of the majority of people
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 14 January 2021 6:55:14 AM
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Josephus,

America won't have a civil war over a person like Trump.

It will take something a lot bigger and more important than a Donald Trump for America to have a civil war on its hands.

But Donald Trump will be happy to hear you think that. It will inflate his ego.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 14 January 2021 7:30:30 AM
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Mr. O, Trump merely represents a hope and ideas and job creation for blue collar workers, that Obama and Biden transferred to China. Everyone on the Left is focused on the man Trump, but the hopes of 74 million Americans has been taken away in Biden / Harris who is more left extremist than Sanders. Sanders would have better for America than the team of Biden / Harris.

Impeaching Trump will not stop the anger felt by the loss of hope in his ideas.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 14 January 2021 7:47:16 AM
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Josephus,

There are bigger forces at play in the world than a Donald Trump.

He is just a ridiculous person and it should be a lesson to American politicians to choose candidates from amongst their own statesman-like kind.

Otherwise you might end up with Kim Kardashian as the President. Because if a Donald Trump can happen than a Kim Kardashian is also a possibility.

Do you really want to have to sing Hail To The Chief to 'Big Butts' Kardashian?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Thursday, 14 January 2021 8:11:53 AM
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Biden is now taking action to silence anyone that published unflattering articles about him or Kamila and his family. Do we know another World leader who silences his critics? Can you see how power corrupts.
http://americassheriff.com/how-venezuela-just-used-a-hate-law-to...
And in the socialist hellhole of Venezuela, dictator Nicolas Maduro and his allies just leveraged the concept of a “hate law” to silence some of the Marxist tyrant’s last remaining critics, AP reports. “Francisco Belisario, a Venezuelan mayor, retired general and member of
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 14 January 2021 6:28:40 PM
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No Jose' we should not accept China as big brother, no more than we should accept America as big brother. I have said many times on the Forum that I believe Australia should follow a course as a nonaligned neutral nation, concentrating on rational self defence. We should be building strategic economic and social partnerships, as an equal, not as a servant with other nations in our region, and that includes China. Any kind of "security" treaty sees the weaker nation being drawn into wars, not of their doing but wars that serve the interest of the dominant big brother regime. Such is the case of Australia and the ANZAS treaty with the United States, because of our alliance or is that reliance, with the US we have been dragged into unjustified wars in Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East, none served Australia's interests, but did much for the interests of the United States.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 15 January 2021 6:15:59 AM
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Dear Paul,

An insurance policy costs. It can be painful to pay the premiums, but not anywhere like the cost if your house burns down. Yes, there comes the stage where the insurance companies charge too much and then you must switch insurers (and forfeit the "loyalty bonus"). Perhaps we should have switched yesteryear, but is this stage really upon us at this time?

While some form or another of insurance is acceptable, decent people do not go and burn their neighbours' houses in winter as a way to insure that their house doesn't catch fire in summer.

Trading with the Chinese regime is like that: they will use your goods in their war machine and in return keep you at the bottom of their list, burning your neighbours first. If not stopped, sooner or later they will work down their list and burn your house too!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 15 January 2021 6:41:19 AM
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Yuyutsu,

"Trading with the Chinese regime is like that: they will use your goods in their war machine and in return keep you at the bottom of their list, burning your neighbours first. If not stopped, sooner or later they will work down their list and burn your house too!"

You are spot on there.

My only criticism is that "Chinese regime" should just read "Chinese" because we are talking about the Chinese nation-state as distinct from just the Chinese state.

You need to speak of the nation-state if you want to understand the PRC. Remember it is the PEOPLE'S Republic of China not the Communists Republic of China.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 7:05:27 AM
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Paul, who do you propose we ally with if we refuse to surrender to China if they are bearing down with 40,000,000 armed soldiers and 1,000 war ships and submarines and 20,000 aircraft. Do we surrender, to save lives? They are planning that we comply as they cut off trade routes.

America under Biden is now an ally of China a reversal of Trump Policy and is according to AOC proposing adopting CCP policy. It has been proposed by AOC that the children of Trump Voters be removed from their parents and be reeducated in Democrat socialist World Views. Remember Communism believes this is the only way to unify a society, and currently America is bordering on Civil war, because of political views.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 15 January 2021 7:30:54 AM
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Josephus,

If we had audio with our written posts on The Forum all anyone would hear is you crying and lamenting all the time.

In fact if we can go virtual we could probably have you tears dripping onto our keyboards.

BTW

I just saw a news headline on ABC TV this morning saying that Biden has told the Democrats in Congress to 'multi-task' after the inauguration.

Hmmm . . . . . looks like they are not going to let up on Trump and they will be going after blood.

GOOD.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 7:45:46 AM
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Josephus,

Weird capitulationism. I guess before WW II, they called it appeasement.

Of course Australia should be firming up its alliances with India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines and all Pacific Island countries.

Of course we should be building up our defences, our armed forces, our military technology. And don't forget that any Chinese armed forces intent on invading Australia has to come around and down the east coast, and down to Perth. Nobody in their right mind is going to invade Australia from the north or from Darwin, down through Alice Springs which will probably be one of the safest places in Australia.

On that score however, we should cancel the lease on Darwin harbour and set it up as a major joint allied naval and air base.

No need to lie own on our bellies just yet, Josephus.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 15 January 2021 7:46:58 AM
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Whatever you say Guangzhou Joe.

Pretending you're all of a sudden a dinky di Aussie instead of a Chinese plant might fool some people but doesn't fool me.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 7:53:50 AM
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What is our government and big business doing to wean ourselves off China? Nothing! Morrison just mouths platitudes and smirks. Big Business has no interest in Australia's 25 million people when it has China's 1.5 billion. BB gets it's rubbish made in China. Australia has only mining and primary industry that China is increasingly refusing to buy - cherries being the latest thing. There is a good case for going backwards twenty years, learning to do without China, and recovering manufacturing and self sufficiency. But, we must have willing and capable politicians to do this. Sadly, you keep voting for the ones we have now, who will eventually give in to China because they don't care and they are too lazy and stupid to do anything else.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 15 January 2021 7:57:43 AM
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ttbn,

You do know what China's two biggest exports are, don't you? (1) People and (2) environmental degradation.

And Australia has been getting a lot of that from China over the past four decades.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 8:17:17 AM
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Foul-Mouth,

I'm starting to think the Chinese will attack from every direction.

They'll come down the east and west coasts with their naval forces and from Darwin through the centre with their air and land forces.

It will be one giant swarm of parasites destroying every living thing in it's path.

Oh well, Australians brought it on themselves so they only have themselves to blame.

I suppose you and the rest of The Forum's pro-China camp will be happy especially when Xi pins the Golden Dim Sum on your chest.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 8:43:46 AM
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I just found this news item which explains why the Commonwealth is no longer anxious for the Chinese to have control over companies in Australia.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/why-did-the-government-block-the-china-led-probuild-sale-what-does-this-mean-for-mergers-and-acquisitions/ar-BB1cJgQo

It's all about national security. Which to me says that the Commonwealth is now apprehensive about the presence of the Chinese in Australia and the extent to which the Chinese can access sensitive sites.

Of course The Forum's pro-China camp like Foul-Mouth aka Guangzhou Joe, Foxy aka the Beijing Butterfly and david f all will say that this is just another racist attack on the Chinese and that the Chinese have just as much right to be here as the rest of us.

Myself, I say it's all too late because the enemy is already inside the gate.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 9:09:58 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

You describe the ANZAUS TREATY as an insurance policy, I would describe it as a dog collar and lead, so we are miles apart on its description. It's a strange insurance policy that states the insurer will only "consult" with the insured should his house burn down, it's just as strange that the insurer requires the insured to pop around h and cut his grass once a month for nothing in return.

Trying to build our own "battleship" to oppose China is ridiculous, they will have 10 "battleships" maybe a 100 to our one, so we may as well have none. Now, there is something Australia can do to subdue Chinese expansion in one regard. That is for Australia and New Zealand as the two developed nations in the South-West Pacific region to direct more aid to island nations (per capita the most aid dependent region on Earth). At the moment China is making great advances with island nations by the use of aid programs. I can tell you, Chinese aid is most welcome in countries like Fiji and elsewhere, where aid is desperately needed. The Chinese are doing a terrific job in Fiji of using aid to ingratiate themselves with the Fijians. If China was wanting to build military bases in these countries in return for aid, I can't see them saying no, not when there is no alternative.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 15 January 2021 4:44:49 PM
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Hi Paul,

You're right about aiding Pacific nations, but Australia will have a huge job to do that effectively and in a way which counters Chinese efforts.

There are more than twenty independent central and south Pacific nations, each of which could furnish attractive naval and air bases for the Chinese military machine for comparatively little outlay.

But yes, Australia has to increase its aid budget massively if only to ultimately protect its borders.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Friday, 15 January 2021 5:30:02 PM
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Foul-Mouth,

Too late.

The Chinese have got us by the short and curlies and it's now time to put Mr Opinion's 10 point plan to placate the Chinese into action.

Better late than never is what they're now saying in Beijing.

I see you are now using 'Chinese' as in the Chinese nation-state viz PRC. Good boy! You deserve to get a gold stamp in your homework book.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Friday, 15 January 2021 5:41:54 PM
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Dear Paul,

Every idea is welcome.
If regional aid works then it is a good tactic to adopt for our quiver.
But on its own, it is just one tactic, not a complete strategy.

"Insurance" is only an imperfect analogy, but so is "dog collar".
Collars are unpleasant, I agree, but dogs cannot escape by removing their own collar while we can remove our collar at any time we choose. We will not be punished if we do, but well, we would then remain without protection. I would like us to have our own nuclear and other non-conventional weapons to deter China, but this takes time. Once we do, I will certainly break that collar.

What do you think about the scorched-earth strategy that I proposed?
Until we have our own nukes to deter China and given that we cannot withstand the Chinese army on our own, we could still mine Australia with dirty bombs and the like, so that if it is invaded then this continent would become uninhabitable and China will find no joy in holding it.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 15 January 2021 5:51:52 PM
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Yuyutsu,
I'm not in agreement in placing mines through the place in the case of an invasion. We have Chinese in every town in Australia, loyal Australians but are they also supporters of the Homeland. It would seem so by their exporting of special items to the homeland. We can accommodate the people but not the communist ideology, it is socially ruinous; when you see what is happening Hong Kong. They cannot accept One Country Two economic systems with freedom of ideas.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 15 January 2021 10:38:33 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu, Mr O and Joe

I am disappointed that you would advocate nuclear proliferation, "our own nukes to deter China". It's clearly shown that bombs are not a good deterrent, take India and Pakistan, both have nuclear weapons, but Pakistan is under resourced in the field, and is more likely to launch a nuclear attack because of that reason, a first strike attempted knockout, a limited regional nuclear war. If Australia was to develop atomic bombs then so could dozens of other countries as well. Simply making the likelihood of nuclear war that much greater.

What we need to combat China's build up is not military treaties, WWI demonstrates what happenings when you go down that path, we need economic and social treaties. "scorched-earth" ScumO' and his conservative cohorts showed us what a scorched-earth policy achieves with last summers bushfires.

Mr O, I agree people is a Chinese export, well the removal of those people is seen as excess to requirements. We should be greatly concerned that we have some politicians whose self-interest is such that they put themselves before Australia when dealing with China. What a joke was Morrisons glove puppet Birmingham when dealing with China recently, we should be embarrassed as a nation that this clown was waving his hankie at China's door, and all he got was a side of beef thrown in his face.

Joe, absolutely, aid dollars spent in our region are a far better investment as a defence for us than what most people realise. I have to be honest, speaking with a friend in Fiji, China is a concern to him, but at the end of the day, decent health, education, roads and other badly needed basics are a far greater concern. Who pays for those badly need items, he don't much care. My friend remembers how his father and grandfather "slaved" in the sugar industry for the British.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 16 January 2021 6:04:45 AM
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Paul1405,

I have never advocated having nuclear weapons.

Yuyutsu wants it because he is a loyal Taiwanese and is still fighting the Chinese Civil War.

Foul-Mouth wants it because he is a Chinese plant aka Guangzhou Joe and is trying to stir up trouble that will allow China to justify an invasion of Australia.

Simple Simon Birmingham. Should I say any more?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 16 January 2021 7:17:48 AM
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Sorry Mr O, that should read; "Yuyutsu, I am disappointed that you would advocate nuclear proliferation"

As one of the few who understands where China is coming from I know you would not advocate nuclear proliferation, MAD idea.

How should we react if China was to send one of their "gun boats" up the Parramatta River. Lob a few shells into a couple of riverside burbs, and blast out the message "Cop that you white devils!" a bit of gun boat diplomacy I'd say, learnt that one from the British. That would then be followed by the thrust of cold steel up the Khyber Pass of a few old fogies, don't like cold steel up their Khyber pass tose old fogies. Just to show the white devils whose running the show these days. ScumO' could send Glove Puppet Birmingham to wave the white hanky at Mr Xi and friends, tell em' we are so sorry for trying to sell them shonky plonk and dodgy cherries.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 16 January 2021 11:41:31 AM
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Paul1405,

Sydney is already half Chinese so I reckon it will be a real pushover.

They'll all line up along the Parramatta River to welcome the Chinese navy, waving their little red and gold flags and their permanent residency visas to prove that they are not Australians.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:02:48 PM
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No problem Mr O, should the Chinese navy sail into Sydney Harbour, we are prepared. ScumO' shall order the dispatch of a flotilla of ferries from Circular Quay, diverted from the Taronga Park run, under the command Of Vice Admiral Brassbottom, and loaded to the bilges with our finest squadron of sea scouts. The lads will repel those pesky invaders with out latest hi-tech water pistols, kitted by the lovely ladies of the CWA! Sounds good? Can you see any problems?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 16 January 2021 12:53:44 PM
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Paul, I must take you to task for making Morrison responsible for the Fires. As though he created a heat wave, I wonder if you are praising him now for the coolest summer we have had s in that same area this year. If only He could control the weather.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 16 January 2021 1:12:05 PM
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Paul1405,

It's already started, back in 2019:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJzcRoDA5sE

Soot Morrison flew out of the country the day before they sailed into Sydney Harbour leaving Berejiklian to explain the surprise visit.

I think she instantly blamed old Dazza just because he had the keys to the house and the keys to her heart in glove box of his car. Talk about getting thrown under the bus.

The creme de la creme of Sydney's un-Australian Chinese community were on the docks to cheer them in and several platoons of the ships' marines reconnoitred the city to search out where we were stashing the cans of our internationally famous baby formula.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 16 January 2021 3:04:52 PM
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Proud Boy Jose'

Glad you could pop in from your rioting duties, how is the pillaging and plundering going in Washington DC these days, are you on your tea break? Since Moses parted the Red Sea, and Jesus walked on water. It would be no problem for St ScumO' to conjure up a weather event, what do want, flood, wind, rain, how about a bit of thunder and lightning over your way to put the wind up Sleepy Old Joe Biden.

Mr O,

Is Gladys squadron commander down at the Nose Bay Yacht Club on Sydney Harbour?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 16 January 2021 4:01:43 PM
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Paul1405,

Don't worry, Buccaneer Gladys B and her First Mate Dazza and their scurvy crew of LNP MPs will keep the harbour clear of those baby formula thieving pirates from the South China Sea.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 16 January 2021 4:27:08 PM
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For god's sake, you blokes, don't give up your day jobs, if you have one.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Saturday, 16 January 2021 4:47:46 PM
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Not sure how Josephus thinks that "loyal Australians" can also be "supporters of the Homeland" - particularly as that Homeland is Communist China, a deadly enemy of Australia.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 16 January 2021 6:08:24 PM
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Dear Josephus,

Very well, I believe that we agree on never giving up to the Chinese communists. So you don't like the idea of scorched-earth, but then what alternate strategy can you propose to prevent Chinese invasion of Australia, or in the least, to prevent this continent and its natural resources from becoming a jumping-board for China to harass the rest of the world?

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Dear Paul,

That's alright, I understand where you are coming from - we just have different priorities:

I prefer the grave over subordination to the Chinese regime,
I prefer poverty over deals and treaties with the devil.

I was however suggesting to have our own nukes as a way to allow us to become independent of America. Wouldn't you consider that important enough? Till then, American nukes are the only reason why we were not already invaded by China.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:14:41 PM
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Foul-Mouth,

Looking for Reds under the bed like The Forum's pro-China camp is my day job.

Why, what do you think I do with myself?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 17 January 2021 6:42:46 AM
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