Pete why would a tsunami wave be radio active? It is the pressure that moves in a tsunami, not the water. Unless the thing exploded with in a few dozen miles of a shore the radioactive material would be restricted to a smallish area in the vicinity of that explosion.

Plantagenet- Maybe some second hand submarine models can be retrofitted as advanced military nations upgrade their fleets to keep the costs down. I am also very concerned with the cost as war is also fought economically- but the lefties are happen enough to squirrel money away for socialist causes so that Communist China is relatively more effective.

I agree that fixed nuclear bombs and missiles have some advantages over mobile platforms such as submarines. Submarines have a some defense characteristics- mobility is useful for defense and attack- especially given the size of Australia- the sea blocks many detection methods.

Dirty Bombs could also be used cheaply and strategically in a scorched earth scenario.

Trump and the US have their own angles- this is always true- diplomacy has a role here- it is in the US interest to protect Australia- and there are many dimensions to this.

We need to find a way of protecting the world militarily while reducing it's population and the conflict this causes. The paradox of the current strategic environment

Is Mise said- For protection, a country needs an army and that army needs to be bigger than any potential enemy's army.

Answer- Wasn't it Napoleon that disproved that belief when he lined up canon at the gates to the castle against civilian unrest. Other examples include Englishman Admiral Pellew and the sinking of invasion troop carriers in support of Ireland in the 1790's. Also the sinking of the Spanish Ships in the 1500's.

"Mass" is just one of the principles of Clausewitz- but it is a favorite of the Communists

Canem Malum,

What do you think of my above mentioned 10 point peace plan with China?

Wouldn't you like to see your favourite Cabinet minister crawling naked on his hands and knees and kissing Xi's feet?

Mr Opinion-

You seem to see things as they are. You know I pretty well agree with my perception of your sentiments. I sense a strong irony thread in your character- doesn't take much sense really.

Sadly ScoMo may be our only hope- lets hope he acts in the same good faith that we do.

Your 10 point plan paints a picture.

As I've said before- some may not see your ironic humour the same way I see it- but it's better than crying at the sight of the horror we face.

Warriors have a keen sense of irony- in good measure with their courage.

Excuse the pun.

I didn't expect to see the end of my culture and my family in my lifetime- many still can't or won't believe it- after shameful blindness- at least I finally see my error. If you see- you have to act- don't refuse to see.

Many wars... brother against brother... the only choice is that... wisely.

All men die... What is life without meaning.

Kudos Mr Opinion.

Hi Hasbeen

Re: "why would a tsunami wave be radio active?"

Indeed you are correct that the Tsunami is created by the 50+ Megaton Explosion (eg. perhaps 150km off the US east coast) of the Giant Russain Torpedo (aka Status-6, NATO designation "Kanyon" see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System )

On top of the normal radiation of a Uranium/Plutonium/Tritium thermonuclear device Putin is considering adding Cobalt-60 to increase the radiation level - thus rendering the US east coast uninhabitable for decades.

"Kanyon" is the ultimate "MAD" Doomsday weapon.

Very difficult to counter as the Russians are talking about the device travelling at 50+ knots at 1,000 meters deep - too deep and too fast for any existing US submarine or torpedo.

The US would need to detonate a counter-explosion or several in front of Kanyon to blow it up before Kanyon itself detonates.

Once Kanyon explodes the Tsunami can travel at a virtually unstoppable 200+ knots...