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Future Fuel Risk

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No doubt you have noticed the reports about the closure of three
refineries in Australia. The profitability of the Australian refineries
has fallen so low because the large Asian refineries can sell
distillates at lower prices than Australian refineries can sell at.
We produce about 300,000 barrels of crude oil a day.
We consume something over 1,000,000 barrels a day.
We either export some of our crude or refine it here at a loss.

If a commercial ban or military action was applied to middle east
operations, then after those tankers already at sea arrived we would
have less than one third or less of our needs.
But not if those cargoes were sold at sea.
With no refineries we would have no fuel at all !
Immediate food and petrol rationing would have to be implemented.
All available fuel would be reserved for food production and what
was left over would be available to the armed services and emergency services.
There may not be enough for the electricity industry to move coal.

The governments are aware of this risk but no steps have been taken
to administer such a problem. Having secret plans is no answer.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 2:26:03 PM
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Bazz,

The lack of action on this supremely (no fuel, no nothing) important matter is a disgrace. The stupid government talked about it some months ago, but nothing has happened, as usual.

It's not China we have to worry about stopping our fuel supply: it's our own useless politicians. Maybe they are working with the CCP. The laid back attitude of the Morrison government is very suspicious. As is the lack of action after a lot of yap on restoring Australia's manufacturing industry.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 3:00:19 PM
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Our own Libs have no backbone. They continue down the renewables fraud and insist the deplorables pay triple the cost for electricity. We should supply all our energy needs before any exports are allowed. Unfortunately to many like Rudd who is happy to take money from Epstein and then virtue signal regarding the gw scam. Sickening really and people are dumb enough to know why so many around the world love Trump.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 6:04:25 PM
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I think the government has arranged the use of part of a tank farm in the US.
Not a good solution as it is a long way away.
China is in a worse position than us.
If we had a refinery we could keep producing the essentials.
It does not need trouble in the Middle East to trigger off a problem
with supply. Just an accident in the Singapore or Korean refineries
would put the whole Asia and Pacific area into major strife.
In a scramble for oil what chance would Australia have ?
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 6:12:15 PM
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We have a number of plans for WW11 vintage wood gas generators, which would keep the 10 KVA generator, & car & the Fergy petrol tractor going.

Of course no point going to town, when nothing could be delivered to town.

I wonder how long it would take to get a few steam locomotives going?
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 9:54:25 PM
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Hasbeen;
I think there is about three already in running order in NSW.
To get more running might be difficult because of the need to make
parts, but in a reversion to early 19th century anything is possible.
Our great great grandfathers did it, so why can't we ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 8:32:12 AM
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