ttbn, it appears they don't want ratbag fascists like One Nation. How do you explain it, at the last Federal election about 1.5 million people voted for the Greens, that's about one third of the Labor vote. I think you suffer from wishful thinking. In their strongest state Queensland, the Greens still out poll the Fascists, elsewhere the Greens out poll the fascists 4 to 1. You are so out of step, think you speak for the silent majority and all that crap, then you back the likes of the Australian Conservative Party which couldn't get enough votes to wipe Corny Bananas big A.

Sadly Paul1405 is right about the votes for Traditional Conservative parties. We need to look to the Greens and learn from them. We need to contact and work with like minded people. We need to create organisational capability and capacity. The Greens and the Communists may be contemptible but they are effective- they are able to get things done. There are people within the Greens that are able to give commands and have them executed efficiently. We all need to be effective leaders and followers for the benefit of the movement and ultimately the nation. Avoid conflict within the movement and deal with the real issues

At the last election, the Greens polled only 10% of the total vote for all candidates, and 14% of the combined Coalition/Labor (the only two parties capable of forming a government). The other non-Green chickenshite candidates polled 15% combined.

So no. I am not "suffering from wishful thinking". We have a firm two party system, with Coalition and Labor voters mostly social conservatives; they leave nut job ideology to the neo-Marxist Greens, some of whom are apparently unaware that 'fascism' applies just as much to extreme leftism as it does to the extreme right; and, the Greens are extreme left in spades!

"We have a firm two party system, with Coalition and Labor voters mostly social conservatives" Is it not strange that ttbn's "social conservatives" overwhelmingly supported gay marriage, the same people who support abortion reform, and according to surveys overwhelmingly support euthanasia. Not to mention support for minority rights and women's equality. The ttbn "social conservatives" are demanding action on climate change, aboriginal recognition and a host of other issues, and did you know the same "social conservatives" stay away from mainstream conservative religious institutions like the Catholic and Anglican churches.

ttbn, your claim might have been true only 20 years ago, but like Rip Van Winkle you need to wake up and realise Australia has changed, much of the world has changed, people have moved on. But like old sleepy head you woke up, marched off and joined the Corny Banana Conservative Party and got your fingers burned, like Corny you didn't realise the changes, and thought there were masses of "social conservatives" just itching to fall into line. How wrong you were!

You should plot a graph of the big two party support post WWII and look where its gone, from a high of 95% in 1951 support to 75% in 2019. Despite both major parties shaking off much of their conservatism over the years they have not been able to arrest the general decline in their supporter base. The major parties "rusted on" voters are far fewer than they have ever been. Between 1949 and 1990 only one 'independent' was elected to the house of reps, Sam Benson in the seat of Batman (Vic) 1966. No other independent was voted in until Ted Mack was elected to the seat of North Sydney (NSW) 1990. Since then a whole host of minor party and independents have been elected to federal parliament, despite the system being stacked against them.

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BTW, pre WWII Australia had a hotchpotch of minority governments. From memory I think Australia only had two significantly majority governments in those years. The first parliament in 1901 was the Barton minority Protectionist government with 31 seats, the opposition the Free Traders with 28 seats, Labour scored about 15% of the vote and 14 seats, plus there were 2 independents. Labour was the Green Party of the day.

Well, big deal. It is a well known fact that a sizeable proportion of Coalition and Labor voters have differing views on certain matters not vital to the well being of the country and our general culture - UNLIKE THE GREENS AND OTHER SLAVES TO TOTALITARIANISM, WHO GO IN FOR GROUP THINK. That they think the same way about everything - being menacingly robotic, like Chinese Communists, is the reason they garner so little of the popular vote.

No. Australia and "much of the world" has not changed significantly. It is minority ratbags who are so noisily screeching about their own desire for change, and their own arrogance, that make them think that. Elections still show that the silent majority does not agree with them. Labor or Coalition, with all their faults, still hold to small 'c' conservatism and fundamental decency (a word not in ultra-Left's lexicon).

It's now 28 years since the Greens were spawned in Australia, and 90% of Australians continue to reject them. Most Australians remain socially conservative. What sort of chump thinks that people cannot be conservative and support some of the things that he mentions in his opening paragraph! Fill in your own descriptions.