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Posted by ttbn, Monday, 5 October 2020 11:08:11 AM
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According to an article by Phillip Cooney in
The Australian Financial Review, August 27th 2020. The Morrison Government plans to terminate agreements with foreign powers which specifically target China. Cooney tells us that "sources have confirmed that Victoria's memorandum of understanding over China's Belt and Road Initiative will be one of the first to be terminated under the new powers". We're also told that "Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has slammed the Morrison's government plans saying the move will further hamper his state's economic recovery. However Mr Andrews is isolated with no support for his position from fellow premiers and federal Labor". Cooney also confirms that universities are also dismayed "after being "blind-sided" by the proposed laws which sources said spell the end of Chinese-Government funded study centres such as the Confucius Institute which operate in 13 Australian universities". Cooney writes that "The government has released a list of 130 contracts, memorandums of understanding and co-operative arrangements between foreign powers and state governments, local councils and universities which will be reviewed under new national security laws aimed at curbing Chinese infiltration". "They will be cancelled if their intent is deemed to be more than just financial". "It's a pretty clear test. If they're inconsistant with federal foreign policy, they'll go!" Prime Minister Scott Morrison said. "Where any foreign government seeks to undermine the sovereignty of Australia's foreign policy by seeking to deal with sub-national governments Australia needs to protect itself from that". Of the 130 arrangements 48 we're told are with the Chinese Government or government bodies. Federal Labor Leader Anthony Albanese said the Opposition would pass the legislation which will use the external affairs powers under the Constitution and apply a national security test to existing and new arrangements. Mr Albanese offered Daniel Andrews no support over the Blet and Road Initiative which Australia and its allies regard as a vehicle to extend Chinese influence in the region and the world by funding large infrastructure projects. "I have expressed it publicly that the government I lead would not participate in the scheme", Mr Albanese said. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:51:29 AM
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Here's the link from The Australian Financial Review: http://www.afr.com/politics/federal/daniel-andrews-hits-back-on-china-20200827-p55pq9 Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 10:54:44 AM
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Foxy and ttbn,
I hope you two aren't engaging in China bashing. It's racist to say things against the Chinese. I hope you're fully aware of this. There are a lot of Chinese in Australia who will be very unhappy if Morrison tries to keep the Chinese out of Australia. Remember, it was China that made Australia what it is during the Great Asianizatiod Period (1980-2020) in Australian history. You two should be ashamed of yourselves. Now, say 20 'Hail Xi' and tap your head 20 times on the ground in front of Xi's effigy and ask for forgiveness. Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 11:30:05 AM
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The proposed legislation might be the answer to the BRI threat, but we have yet to see how serious the government is. We don't have a leader known for action, but it is good that the Opposition would support the legislation.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 11:34:14 AM
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I also believe that a long, hard look needs to be cast over system of government. Matters touching on foreign policy should not be hijacked by state premiers. While I have no time at all for our lazy, stand-for-nothing Prime Minister, there is nothing that he can do about the current situation without big changes. I have never been one for power centralised in Canberra. However the state premiers seem to be pushing too many boundaries now.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 11:44:02 AM
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ttbn,
Why are you trying to keep the Chinese out of Australia? We are all Asians now and the way things have been going we will soon identify Australia as an extension of China. All hail Xi! All hail Xi! Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 11:45:06 AM
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This legislation is a step in the right direction
to protect our national security and curb foreign infiltration. It's good that a national security test will be applied to existing and new arrangements. Perhaps the Confucius Institute study centres which are funded by the Chinese government and exist in 13 Australian universities can now be questioned. I guess we shall have to wait and see where this will take us. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 12:44:44 PM
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There's also the Darwin Port 99 year lease with
China. Can that be looked at? Not sure of all the facts involved. Just a thought. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 12:49:45 PM
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Foxy,
Can you please refrain from bad-mouthing the Chinese? Can't you see how wonderful things will be when Australia becomes an extension of China? There are millions of Chinese in Australia who aren't happy about you criticising their ancestral homeland so please stop it. Think of your grandchildren and their grandchildren who are to be part of that great Chinese experience awaiting them. So please stop it. You're making me cry. Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 12:58:15 PM
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Mr O,
Nobody is saying anything against the Chinese people. What is being discussed is the government's plans to terminate agreements with foreign powers that are inconsistent with federal foreign affairs policy. "Where any foreign government seeks to undermine the sovereignty of Australia's foreign policy by seeking to deal with sub-national governments. Australia needs to protect itself from that". As our Prime Minister has stated - "It's a clear test". "If they're inconsistent with federal foreign affairs policy, they'll go". Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 1:00:49 PM
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Foxy,
Please don't try to pull the wool over our eyes. We all know who the so-called 'foreign government' is: It's a pseudonym for the Chinese nation-state. Anyway, it is too late to prevent Australia becoming an extension of China. All a consequence of the Asianization process (aka Australian Multiculturalism) that took place during the Great Asianization period (1980-2020) in Australian history. And we owe it to people like you Foxy. But here you are now bad-mouthing the Chinese just because they want to be an even greater part of Australia's future as an Asian nation-state. You should hang you head in shame. Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 1:11:41 PM
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Mr O,
Oh My Goodness. Did I just read your accusing me of bad-mouthing the Chinese? YOU ARE SO JUDGEMENTAL! (smile). Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 1:33:46 PM
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Foxy,
I can see you haven't embraced your new Asian identity. Don't worry your grandkids will. They have been enculturated through the Asianization process to see themselves as Asian and soon they will welcome the coming of Australia as an extension of China. If you don't believe me then just ask them yourself. All hail Xi! Master of the Universe. Lord of the Heavens. Bringer of Water. Bringer of Life. Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 1:42:08 PM
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Andrews is a joke.
End of story for me. He led the stuff up in Victoria with regard to the coronavirus, and he courts the CCP. Could anyone be any worse as a leader? Posted by Chris Lewis, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 3:30:52 PM
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Chris Lewis,
Well ..... yeah, there is ....... Trump of course you silly boy. Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 3:38:04 PM
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Chris Lewis,
I think he is too dangerous to be a joke. He has been described as a psychopath. Irrespective of his mental state, he comes across as a very unpleasant person, even among politicians. The big question is, where the hell is the Opposition? Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 3:56:03 PM
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ttbn,
I think for years now, no one really does much in opposition in a tougher era for policy solutions. they just wait for the govt to stuff up. But, yes, the opposition could be doing better. Even at the federal level, where the hell is Albo? Posted by Chris Lewis, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 4:37:57 PM
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Where the hell is Albo?
He's supporting the current government in this. I stated earlier - Daniel Andrews is isolated with no support for his position from fellow premiers and federal Labor. Federal Labor leader Anthony Albanese said the Opposition would pass the legislation. Mr Albanese offered no support over the Belt and Road Initiative which Australia and its allies regard as a vehicle to extend Chinese influence in the region and the world by funding large infrastructure projects. "I have expressed it publicly that the government I lead would not participate in the scheme, " Mr Albanese said. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 5:43:12 PM
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wow, sounds like you are a fan of albo, foxy?
Posted by Chris Lewis, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 6:05:24 PM
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Dear Chris,
No. I'm not. Merely quoting from The Australian Financial Review on the topic. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 6:23:18 PM
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Daniel Wild, writing for IPA, believes that "Australians (or, at least Victorians) gave up on democracy on 18th September 2020" when the Andrews government passed laws which contain "the most significant violation of human rights in Australia's history". And there has been "barely a whimper" from the federal Coalition government since.
Andrews is taking on many of the Chinese Communist Party's tactics even before further opens the gate to them. And, as usual, the Morrison government sits back, dumbstruck - or approvingly. Who knows. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 9:05:00 AM
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ttbn,
Stop bad mouthing the Chinese! It's totally racist and you should be ashamed of yourself. Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 12:48:47 PM
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ttbn,
Morrison sitting back? Where have you been burying your head, dear sweet ttbn? Rome burning, Scomo and Josh and Mathias pulling out all the stops to save your donut and everyone else's - but they are sitting back? Sheesh man, get a grip. Dan the Man rampant. Federal Coalition drafting legislation to stomp on Dan's 'imperious malevolence' and leaving no stone unturned to wrench Victoria from the jaws of Methuselah, but, they are sitting back? Can twisted-logic be a hidden un-diagnosed stealth-product of Covid infection? You must have it bad, sweet ttbn. Time to take a pill? My, these Chinese are clever! Posted by Saltpetre, Thursday, 8 October 2020 10:26:57 AM
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Andrews has had to back down on his intention to give non-police thugs the right to detain people on a whim. The Omnibus Bill will still go before parliament.
Why hasn't the Opposition petitioned the Victorian Governor on this matter I wonder. She has the Reserve Powers to ask governments for amendments to Bills, or to refuse to give assent to Bills. There is no point in having a 'crowned republic' if the advantages are not used. Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 8 October 2020 10:32:01 AM
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Despite the attitude of the Federal Government, and it’s refusal to be involved in the BRI (considered to be a foreign policy matter), Andrews signed a deal with Chinese dictatorship ‘s BRI in October 2019. He promised to “facilitate their access to Victoria”, which he said would become “CHINA’S GATEWAY TO AUSTRALIA”.
Even the federal Labor Opposition has rejected the idea of signing up to the BRI, while their Victorian colleague thinks that “a strong relationship and a strong partnership (with Communist China) is VERY, VERY IMPORTANT”. Andrews has made six trips to China since he has been Premier; one of the “important” Chinese companies he wants to deal with was involved in the illegal construction of artificial islands in the South China Sea.
A NATO security and economic committee recently warned that, “There should be no mistake that elements of the BRI and China’s related foreign policies pose a challenge to Western values.
It seems that Daniel Andrews is not concerned about those Western values. And, perhaps, he is banking on the Communist Chinese money (considered to be a ‘debt trap’ in Third World countries that have fallen for the BRI) to get him out of the appalling mess he has made of the Victorian economy with his dictatorial lockdowns and assaults on citizens’ freedoms and work opportunities.