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mhaze, It should be simple enough for you, or The Donald, to name these "Generals", or are they a figment of The Donald's fertile imagination. I suggest that The Donald is lying, given his propensity to lie at every opportunity trying to save his worthless hide as he does so often.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 7 August 2020 7:22:18 PM
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Wow!

Paul you and Donald have a lot in common.

Foxy is on the money, an invasion of mainland Japan would have cost the Americans more casualties than the entire pacific war and would have killed between 4 and 10 million Japanese. That the 2 bombs spurred Japan into surrendering saved millions of people.

What is often also forgotten is that first day of firebombing on Tokyo killed as many people as the Hiroshima bomb. That nuclear weapons are an effective deterrent against attack is also undeniable but is being undermined by China's "Salami" tactics.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 8 August 2020 3:50:01 AM
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Here we have those justifying the use of atomic weapons with their hypothetical claim that the killing of thousands of innocent people with such weapons saved the lives of thousands of others. The evidence for this claim only exists in their minds. When the third and subsequent bombs are dropped there will be those who will also justify there use as being necessary, and most likely life saving as well.

All that MAD encourages is nuclear proliferation. If you accept MAD as legitimate then countries like North Korea and Iran have every right to develop nuclear weapons as a deterrent to unfriendly aggressor nations. Australia with a demonstrated sycophantic relationship with super power America is less safe, as we become a heightened secondary target for nuclear attack. Another danger is localised nuclear war between lesser powers such as India and Pakistan, where one or the other believes a preemptive strike gives them a military advantage when losing a conventional war. The placement of nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists agents by an accepted holder such as Israel is possible to avoid responsibility for their use. Then there is the accidental or irrational use of atomic weapons to be considered as well. Every country with atomic weapons has a madman with his finger on the button!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 8 August 2020 6:51:15 AM
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Here we have those justifying the use of atomic weapons with their hypothetical claim that the killing of thousands of innocent people with such weapons saved the lives of thousands of others.
Paul1405,
How about your hypothetical claims that it wasn't so ? There are people anywhere & yes, here too in very Australia who love nothing more than causing conflict. Why, you're one of them ! Then there are normal people who simply want to protect what they gained via their effort. Some erroneously believe inheritance or something that nature provided is included in that. It is not from a moral perspective !
So, when you get whole Nations forcing other Nations to take defensive action, prevention is better than cure & even more economic in the long run. Until of course, a new generation of people with no experience to lean on start making the same moves again ! Like you do !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 8 August 2020 8:06:39 AM
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A cynic might say the United States used the Atomic bomb(s) for no other reason than to test their effects on human being. The fact they used a second device, an Implosion-type weapon, on Nagasaki, 9th August 1945 supports that argument.

Indy, while ever there are people like you in the world, there will be war. Why do you consider yourself a "normal" person?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 8 August 2020 4:14:43 PM
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Why do you consider yourself a "normal" person?
Paul1405,
Because I try to get people to see the folly of wilful confrontation ! Shame you don't want to see it !
Defence is something else altogether ! Tearing at scabs is another, it causes more wounding & takes longer to heal !
Prevention has been proven to be better than cure ! Using racism as an unwarranted excuse is one of the most immoral tactics. Biting the hand that feeds you is also immoral.
Supporting division in society is simply stupid ! That's why normal people are trying to make people like you see but to no avail ! It's against your mentality !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 8 August 2020 5:16:27 PM
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