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How bad is Victoria's coronavirus problem?

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Foxy,

The public hospital system has the best health professionals.

Not having a vaccine for the WuFlu means that we all live in a new world where we have to be alert and ready to dodge and weave our way around others whom we must assume are infected. It's like something out of a zombie movie, but that's the world we now live in and it could just be like this forever.

We now all have to make unusual decisions to survive and keep our fingers crossed that they are the right ones.

Just thank your lucky stars you don't live in America or Brazil. I suppose Hollywood will be happy now that it has an endless supply of out-of-work extras for its next zombie movie.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 19 July 2020 11:55:57 AM
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Dear Individual,

«punitive unempathetic attitude»
«It's the only attitude morons could possibly get some sense shaken into !»

You may be able to get a moron to comply, but nothing short of a miracle can get sense into someone who is truly a moron.

Also nothing can shake the sense out of a saint.

As for the rest, perhaps 99% of Victorians, when beaten and humiliated in a punitive unempathetic attitude, it is quite sensible to respond by disobedient hate and spite towards their oppressor, doing deliberately the opposite of what they order.

Had the Victorian premier controlled his gratifying glee at this viral-opportunity by keeping his mouth shut, then while coordination might not have been at its best, the vast number of Victorians would have used their natural common sense and natural goodwill, so the number of cases would not have been anything like what we see.

I think you owe Foxy an apology for including her in your "moron" statement. She was weighing the situation carefully and used her best sense to postpone her appointment to September, even while she was legally allowed to proceed with her original date. The vast majority are good and sensible people, but if treated contemptuously under the assumption of being morons, then they will strike back and rightly so.

The choice given between a tyrant and a virus, I would also side with the virus!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:01:04 PM
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Yuyutsu,

For all that, Andrews' record is vastly superior to that of the US, supposedly the leading power in the world. Perhaps that demonstrates conclusively that socialism is superior to capitalism.

Come on, Runner, go for it :)

Or, of course, Andrews' ideology is immaterial in these circumstances, he simply follows the guidance of the best health scientists, as all sensible leaders should be doing. He's 'doing' science, not magic or religion.

As I understand it, Victoria and Florida have roughly similar population sizes. Florida has had 337,500 cases, maybe a hundred times as many cases as Victoria. Maybe Florida shouldn't count any more cases, then they'll all go away. Anyway, it's only another sort of flu.

Roll on, November. Well, it will anyway, but what might the situation look like by then ? Will Pussy Man have beaten this enemy and will bev then sweep back in for a second term ? Hi Ho Silver !

Or will we be contemplating half a million deaths (i.e. 3,000 p.d. between the beginning of August and early November) and the destruction of the American economy ? I certainly hope not.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:31:17 PM
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you owe ............. an apology for including h.. in your "moron" statement.
Yuyutsu,
My bad, I didn't realise you didn't know the definition of a moron !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 July 2020 12:31:54 PM
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Yuyutsu,
below is a perfect example & I'm not referring to this Labor Premier.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/bored-is-better-than-intensive-care-dan-andrews-dig-at-karen-from-brighton/news-story/878070cd128b724ae5f18bf309894e76
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 July 2020 1:00:43 PM
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Dear Joe,

The difference between Victoria and Florida, is that one is inhabited by Australians, the other by Americans. That Victoria is doing relatively better, is DESPITE Andrews, not because of him.

I was not referring to Andrews' ideology, nor to the practical steps as guided by epidemiologists - only to his ATTITUDE, his GLEE, his CONTEMPTFUL EXPRESSION and THE WAY he imposed the Victorian restrictions: this attitude further alienated his government from the people, encouraging them to break the rules more often.

You could also add his incompetence (such as employing untrained, low-paid security-guards in quarantine hotels), but was this really incompetence, or was it in fact deliberate because he enjoys this power/punishment game so much?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 19 July 2020 1:56:24 PM
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