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Muslims are intolerant of Non-Muslims (infidels)
They think it's ok to harm others if it serves their beliefs and cause.
I've seen footage of gays thrown off buildings and people lined up by ISIS and shot; I'm not sure whether this is representative of all Islam, but it fails the ethics test 'Everybody has the right to live however they choose so long as it doesn't have a negative and detrimental impact on others'.

Judaism: they think they have a right to rule over non-Jews like cattle.
That fails the ethics test too then.

On top of that, all of them think they have a right or duty to impose what they believe upon the others.

Abrahamic religions - ALL FLAWED

Republicans / Democrats

Well I could look at the flaws in democracy:
'As opposed to' - 'A hypothetical' and 'Reframe the Question'
remember I said that
As opposed to - lets say a Benevolent Dictator who would never sell off the ports rail roads electricity to private interests...

Both Republican and Democrats are bi-partisan in one thing:
Making war on other countries for 'America's interests'.
Both fail the ethics test right there.

Democrats co-opt minority groups and gain power for themselves off the status quo, never actually helping anyone.

Republicans spend money on foreign wars but are unwilling in many ways to bring in the kinds of social changes that a society really needs.

Both are flawed.

I could go through all of these platforms one by one, and they're all flawed.

I could add more:

Democracy, Communism, Socialism - ALL FLAWED.

You want something better.
Recognise the flaws in your system, and the arguments that hold merit in others.

The way to the truth is to separate arguments that do hold merit from those that don't.
It's a long process, but you can get to the truth of things if you try.
By figuring out whats wrong, you'll eventually figure out whats right.

So everyone has to figure it out for themselves is your best system.

"The way to the truth is to separate arguments that do hold merit from those that don't. It's a long process, but you can get to the truth of things if you try. By figuring out whats wrong, you'll eventually figure out whats right".
Armchair Critic
The thing is that is what everyone is doing, is figuring it out for themselves and arriving at different conclusions.

As for myself, I do not temp God with mixing with corona virus, as Jesus said to The leader of the Zealots who challenged him to Jump from a tall building and God would protect him from injury, "Thou shall not temp the Lord your God". God does not protect stupidity. Christians are human and vulnerable to all human diseases.

"So everyone has to figure it out for themselves is your best system."

No I'm not necessarily saying that at all.
Spencer Gear often talks about people doing whats 'right in their eyes'.
I'm saying there is a distinct right and wrong way of going about things, a universal right and wrong, if you wish.

What I'm saying is that if 'we' as a society want something better than all these flawed belief systems, then 'we' need to ALL sit down together and firstly decide if we're satisfied with all this constant endless fighting amongst ourselves and whether we really want something better?

Because we're not going to be looking for anything better until we actually take a good hard look and see how bad things really are;
And decide for ourselves that we want and can do better.

All of these religions / belief systems ARE Flawed.
Whilst none of them are perfect, all have some basis of merit, or elements of good despite their flaws.

I'm glad you found the scripture of Jesus being challenged to jump off a tall building.
"God does not protect stupidity." - That's a good take on it.
I don't have a problem with Christians believing in God.
My issue is when their ignorance and actions combine to cause harm to others.
Also they will ascribe as God's will that which is Man's Will.
'Leave it up to God', is willful ignorance and unconditional forgiveness is hardly any different to giving all sins a free pass.
I think they are more aligned with servitude than accomplishment.
I think often they lose all sense of themselves, because they put religion into the space that was originally reserved for ethics.
They often act self-righteous and beyond criticism or reproach.

They do harm because of their self righteousness and ignorance, but I know they are not deliberately meaning to be bad people.

Hello all,

Some on this topic may wish to watch the following, as many seem to be fighting amongst themselves on multiple keyboards here. So I suggest viewing the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AjkUyX0rVw

What you have watched may inspire you and get this discussion back on track and see the world become a more peaceful place. For that to happen, one may need to discover inner peace and be willing to at least note the views of others and if possible respect those views, including ones one may disagree with.

Hi Nathan,

While ever there is injustice, intolerance and inequality in the world then true peace will only be an elusive ideal. That is not to say we should not do whatever we can to achieve what seems to be an impossibility.

So Paul you are still wanting equal hurt on offenders of the Past, that is exactly why we currently have conflict. I have a Papuan friend now living in Australia who's life is in danger because a member of an adjoining tribe was murdered by one his father when he was a child. Their justice system is a life for a life. He has become a Christian from a head hunter tribe and has learned to forgive his enemy, but his enemy remains hostile, though the incident happened over 50 years ago.

It is true that most ideologies and religions are exclusive, and demand adherence. However, in Christianity there is no true followers unless they are free of their guilt and have repented of the sins of the past and can forgive the guilt of others.