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The Forum > General Discussion > Has Sweden's COVID response lost its allure as a poster child of the right yet?

Has Sweden's COVID response lost its allure as a poster child of the right yet?

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"Sweden is likely well into its second phase with record setting new infections seen over the last week."

But are they panicked by it?

Those nations and governments who mortgaged the future prosperity of the next generations on the hope they could permanently defeat the WuFlu are terrified that second, third etc waves will show that economic destruction wasn't worth it.

Others are more sanguine.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 8:07:36 AM
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Here's another thing more important than how we compare with foreign countries in dealing with the China virus: there are now over 5 million of our 25 million population on the dole or receiving the JobKeeper wage subsidy. Many more have had their wages or hours cut, because of thousands of businesses closed down by our irresponsible government.

Australians have been punished by out-of-touch politicians and bureaucrats who don't have a clue about anything; they think that small businesses can simply shut, and open, and then shut again.

With the stupidity going on in Australia, we don't have any business concerning ourselves with Sweden or any other country other than our own.

All to prevent the deaths of a few old people (like me) who were and are on death's doorstep anyway. Why do we keep voting for idiots
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 10:15:18 AM
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Dear mhaze,

Well the architect of Sweden's response is certainly sanguine even when admitting he got it wrong.

Dr Tegnell, who is Sweden's state epidemiologist and in charge of the country's response to Covid-19 says "If we were to encounter the same disease again, knowing exactly what we know about it today, I think we would settle on doing something in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done."

And when asked if too many people had died too soon, Dr Tegnell said, "Yes, absolutely."

Do you agree?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:33:44 AM
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ttbn, I fear that there are far more people out there who don't think with a full deck.
We have too many who only want to see what appears to be the right answer on the surface and also makes them feel good.
I would like to think that people like you and I are more pragmatic and objective, not subjective and emotional, and consider far more than the obvious.
I agree, if I'm reading you right, that this virus is not going to give up any time soon and that it will still be around well after these fools think it's safe to carry on.
Sweden, being of a less emotional and very pragmatic people, probably accepted that they were not going to out run this threat and did a risk assessment early on, deciding to let the chips fall where they may, and thinking as I did that the destruction and ruination of those who could beat the virus, was not a good enough decision/reason to save what few sick, vulnerable and elderly that will die from this virus.
Now I realise that there are far too many fairy brains and princesses out there, starting with our own unrealistic reject-er of reality and the real world, for them/her to accept such a cruel idea, but seeing as how we will still be around to witness them rue the day they ever decided to comment on anything and everything that they obviously have NO idea of what they speak, we will have the last laugh when the very people they ignorantly seek or attempt to protect will succumb to this insidious and despicable evil that has befallen us.
If one is a religious man one could think this is the wrath of God telling us something, not being that religious I have my own ideas of what it might be, but I think it is merely nature at work and the job at hand with this virus is, when it is over, we will be a stronger and healthier people, as only the stronger and healthier will survive.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:43:04 AM
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ALTRAV,

Good to have you back. The place is awash with lefties, and there aren't many posters worth looking at.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 11:56:39 AM
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So Steely, are you suggesting that the good Swedish Doctor was admitting failure or of making the wrong decision?
I get a different take, and that is, he actually feels that they made the right decision, but for PC and public perception, you will note that he did not say that they should have adopted only what the rest of the world had done.
He was being PC, and not denying or denigrating their decision, but carefully choosing his words to appease or placate any detractors, of which he knows there are many, and I feel they are few in Sweden.
It matters not the decision, because ultimately those who will succumb to this virus, will succumb, and only a vaccine MIGHT stop the onslaught.
Until it is completely eradicated, NO-ONE is exempt from attack.
The only difference is the health and well being of the attackee as to them being able to fight it off, and survive the attack.
Even then we are seeing recurring cases which have surprised even those managing this pandemic.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 12:59:13 PM
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