Hi Joe,

"Perhaps Heydon should be shown to be a witch, i.e. given a trial. Then we can take him out and shoot him."

Come on Joe, if you can't get a fair trial down at the High Court, where else can you? After all they have all the legal apparatus necessary to conduct trials..., besides the wigs and gowns they have thumb screws, the rack, the iron maiden etc etc, to ensure trials are conducted in a most proper and impartial way. Just the other day a well known arch bishop was put on 'The Rack' and despite a bit of dislocation of the arms and legs he was voted 7 nil by the inquisitors, sorry judges, to be innocent of you know what. In my own case the court found me not guilty of a parking infringement despite applying the thumb screws for two days, can't get fairer than that.

BTW, The forums constitutional lawyers, we have several budding Dennis Denuto's here, will tell you, you can not be shot for witchcraft under the Australian Constitution! Our laweryers will tell you the penalty allowed by the founding fathers for witchcraft, section 127, subsection 13, is burning at the stake! With our fair and just constitution, the founding fathers didn't want to be seen as too harsh on the witches in our mist. Donlt know what we can do with black witches? They are not mentioned in the Constitution at all, although some are now seeking recognition of their trade in law. Maybe another trip to the High Court. What do you say?

Hi Foxy,

I could be wrong but I don't think Anita has ever lived on an Aboriginal community, so of course she's had to rely on second-hand accounts. Second-hand information can never rise above that limitation. And I WAS talking about hard reality, not soggy daydreams.

Hi Paul,

Yes, like anyone, Heydon is entitled to a trial. Then you can drag him out and burn him at the stake, perhaps draw and quarter him first.

Joe

Foxy,
In your perception, what is a Torres Strait Islander. How many generations does it take to be indigenous ?

Joe,

"Growing Up Aboriginal In Australia".

Anita Heiss is the editor.

The book is an anthology compiled by Anita Heiss and
it attempts to show case as many diverse voices,
experiences, and stories as possible.

Each account reveals the impacts of ways of life, and
on how people are treated daily in the community, the
education system, the workplace, and friendship
groups.

It's a brilliant collection of short memoirs from
Indigenous writers and highlights an enormous diversity
in the life stories of Aboriginal People in Australia
from those who grew up in middle class suburbs to those
in self determined communities, to those in missions and
reserves, to small communities in remote areas.

They're definitely not " soggy daydreams" as you describe.

They are hard reality but will challenge and impress
every reader who opens the book.

Individual,

You asked what is a Torres Strait Islander?

You could have Googled this for yourself.

According to the web:

Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders refer to different
groups of peoples.

Aborigine refers to the original population of mainland
Australia.

Torres Strait Islander refers to the original people of the
274 islands located North of Australia in the Torres Strait.

The islands are part of the state of Queensland.
Etnically distinct from the Aboriginal people of the
rest of Australia. They are often grouped with them as
Indigenous Australians.

You also asked how many generations does it take to be
indigenous?

Again according to the web:

With generations of 25 years and each having 3 children
one Aborigine could account for 2,187 descendants over
7 generations.

Foxy,
Sadly, the Web has misled you substantially on this.
Re being indigenous;
Many are descendants of South Pacific Islanders some of whose forebears came here via very early Black Birding, the bulk came via appropriate working Visa.
I have personally seen such ledgers.
There is actually no such race as a Torres Strait Islander but since the islands have been colonised by South Pacific people for some 7000 years it is fair to now call them TSI.
btw. there are 134 islands of which 13 are inhabited.
The area has a very turbulent history which is fascinating reading but you have to filter the material as much has been distorted by professional historians who get funded by those who want history recorded as they want it rather than as it happened.