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The Forum > General Discussion > National Reconciliation Week 2020.

National Reconciliation Week 2020.

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mhaze,

The web is full of concrete suggestions.
All you have to do is look. Many have
been repeatedly offered here in this
discussion as well including citing a variety
of links. Of course if you don't read them -
you have no one to blame but yourself.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 31 May 2020 6:47:25 PM
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Many moons ago Bill Shorten became an international laughing stock when he said he didn't know what his PM had said but he agreed with it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFELLK8htKM

We see the same thinking here with lots of 'virtuous' people not knowing what reconciliation is, but agreeing with it. 'I can't describe what reconciliation is but I think its a good thing'.

Of coarse these people realise that if you don't agree with this undescribable reconciliation then you're a racist and that's unthinkable to them. They'd rather look the dill than be risk being racist in the same way as Shorten preferred to look the dill than inadvertently disagree with his boss.

"Many have been repeatedly offered here in this
discussion as well including citing a variety
of links. "

Well that's patent rubbish, especially as regards the claim about links. I'd ask Foxy to point to examples of what she claimed, but that never works. She's a past master at making unsupported claims and then refusing to offer that support.

But what the hell....Foxy, please point us to the parts of this thread where concrete proposals are made and/or linked. Just hoping that there might be something on the WWW doesn't count.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 31 May 2020 8:53:21 PM
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mhaze,

You can start by reading my post at the end of
page 1 of this discussion where the 8 key
issues are clearly listed in the Reconciliation
process by the Reconciliation Council. These are
concrete steps suggested by the Council to
be taken. They speak for themselves.

Then if you read
my all of posts throughout this discussion you should
be capable of understanding both what Reconciliation
is about, what it entails, and clearly the steps
that need to be taken to achieve it.

If you still can't understand, - then the problem
lies with you - no one else. No one can help you.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 31 May 2020 10:40:17 PM
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Once more for the dummy! (from Foxy's post page 1)

It identified 8 key issues in the Reconciliation process:

1) Understanding country
2) Improving relationships
3) Valuing cultures
4) Sharing history
5) Addressing disadvantage
6) Custody level
7) Aboriginals controlling their own destiny
8) Formal documentation of the process.

Can't expect much more from the guy who only a few short weeks ago was telling us Covid-19 was nothing more than a sneeze, and would be gone soon
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 1 June 2020 5:46:49 AM
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I was thinking that no two aboriginal groups can agree on any one thing at the same time and wondered why? Then I realised it is always about more money and how every one of them wants more than the other group. Yes I know that what is colloquially called "White" people do the same but we see the requirement for consensus eventually.
The ragbag of what they want is open-ended, give a dollar, now two, now four etc. It is always the same carpet baggers who get all the money and want even more and give themselves meaningless titles. Started as Doctor now the latest is Professor so what's after that, Highness, Majesty? I think we need a proper referendum to remove any mention of exempting aboriginality from our laws and be one big happy family.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 1 June 2020 9:06:19 AM
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The 8 key (smile) issues aren't concrete proposals. They don't offer a guide toward reconciliation. They most certainly don't explain what reconciliation would look like and how we'd know when we got there.

They are, as I said earlier, " empty feel-good platitudes". Motherhood statements that make those who self-identify as virtuous think they they know what's at stake. They don't.

For example:
4) Sharing history

What does that even mean? We tell each other stories about our past? One side tells how their ancestors learnt to point a point on a bone, the other tells how their ancestors invented civilisation? And after having 'shared' our history, how does that get us to be reconciled?

In the end we still end up knowing that the aboriginals were run of the mill stone age primitives and the British were invaders.

So no closer to this mirage of reconciliation. Just more whining. Still, a bunch of natives would earn a good living sharing 'their' history and since money is what its all about, all good.

"telling us Covid-19 was nothing more than a sneeze, and would be gone soon"

Still struggling with that whole understanding the past thing I see, Paul. Because that wasn't even close to what I was saying
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 1 June 2020 2:21:19 PM
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