Mr. O,

'Adamant' usually means pig-headed. As someone pointed out last night, whatever the RC came up with, it's just an opinion.

We will never know what what George Pell did know or didn't know during the period in question. Remember, he was a young priest, and the Commission was trying to hold him accountable for the lack of action by an Archbishop.

ttbn,

I think most people will believe the findings of the Commission and will refuse to believe anything Pell has to say in his own defence because the report has come out and basically called Pell a wrongdoer and a liar.

I think this will give a lot of ammunition to people looking to take civil action against Pell and the Pells Angels. And this time the Commission's findings and conclusions will be able to be used in the courts.

The Vatican was able to get Pell a shortened prison sentence only to find it has now left itself open to massive $$$$ damages claims against it. This is the thing when people do wrong - the wrong just never goes away and all the lies cannot blind us from the truth.

The Vatican was not able to "get" anything for the Cardinal. They and the Australian Catholic church didn't even contribute to his costs. He and friends paid the lot.

ttbn,

I hope the Vatican has deep pockets because I think there will be a lot of people seeking damages following the disclosure of the Commission's findings and conclusions.

And who knows, they might even throw Pell back in the slammer.

Mr. O

If people are out for money - which is the the primer mover for these claims of historical abuse - they will need hard evidence, not just the opinions coming from a Royal Commission. Besides, since the debacle of wrongful imprisonment, the Cardinal might be looking to get a few bob from Victoria. It would be a very brave or hungry lawyer who would go after the Catholic church on what amounts to hearsay. Just because they didn't stick up for George doesn't mean that the Church will want to hand money over to alleged victims. The Catholic church is like any other huge bureaucracy - a different kettle of fish from its priests, who are actual human beings like all of us.

Frankly, I don't care what happens after the unanimous High Court decision. The moaning and groaning of alleged victims and their minders scrabbling for money is of no interest to me.

Sinclair Davidson wrote this morning that:-

"All the luvvies who were out and about crapping on about the sanctity of jury trials and only juries can make findings of fact are crapping on about findings made by the Royal Commission."

No doubting what old Sinc thinks about the 'crappers'. He continues:'

"Let’s be clear – this is the opinion of the Royal Commission. If it were possible to make that stick in a court of law – even when you can run a secret trial, and keep retrying until you get a jury verdict you like, advertise for witnesses who can video tape their evidence, and the defence cannot reveal the inadequacies of the witness – the Victoria Police and/or Victorian criminal justice system would have brought charges based on that allegation. They didn’t."

The left tried it on. They played hard and dirty. They lost