Isn't it amazing how grateful these "young people" progeny of Paul are for all the money the pensioners spent on getting the young people to where they are today.

We paid for them to be born in hospital, supplied health care for a couple of decades, Then spent a fortune educating them, so they could earn a living.

Just perhaps, by the time they are 40 they will have repaid all the money we spent on them. This will depend on the level of education ewe provided for them. Those who went through the higher education system well still be in debt to us for another decade or so, unless they become public servants & are still bleeding the public dry.

Time some kids, & their parents grew up, said thanks, & started to pay their dues to society.

I don't begrudge anything that our current PM is
doing. I'm sure he has enough experts and advisers
to help him make the right decisions for the country.
So far our nation has done remarkably well during this
pandemic - and we can be proud that we have a leader and
cabinet that listen to advisers.

I certainly do not begrudge pensioners and others who
are given financial support to help them cope.
Our leaders know what they are doing.

I spent the $750 on a secondhand hay bailer, a decrepit machine that is the same as the one we currently use, this one is for spare parts and some useful iron for blacksmithing.

I'll probably spend the next $750 on ammunition.

Is Mise,

I don't think guns are going to work on the virus.

A bit of a ask of the kids what they know about what pensioners receive or might have in assets.

Both of my boys didn't know how much the pension per fortnight was, but when I told them, they don't think it was unreasonably high, but believe it to be livable, after finding out what assets a pensioner can hold, and what other assistance a pensioner receives. They were surprised at the amount of assets pensioners are allowed to hold in bank accounts without affecting their pension, $263,250 for a single, owning their own home, up to $605,000 for a non home owning couple. They thought it would be about $20,000 or $30,000. They think the high assert threshold is a reason pensioners would simply save the $1,500 in handouts. And the fact gods waiting room is closed, and they can't get to the pokies! So said Labor boy.

Yes ttbn, my son does earn a gross amount of $90k per year for "for driving a bloody bus!" up to 60 hours/week picking up old drunk wingers at 1am with their $2.50 pensioner pass, do you catch buses often ttbn? My (step) son-in-law gets about $200k/year for driving a crane, and doesn't have to pick up old whingers. How do you like that one? ttbn did you ever have a job?

Both my kids don't believe they will ever get such a generous pension handout from the government as some get today.

My youngest son, favours a mostly cashless welfare system where the bulk of the handout, if not all, is on a spend card which can't be used for purchasing alcohol, other drugs or tobacco, and can't be used for gambling.

What do others on the forum think of a cashless card system, where the pension is paid through a spend card, which doesn't allow for non approved purchases, and in the long run can't be saved or transferred. .