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Violence is not OK

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'Nathan, I do not support any violence. '

except the killing of the unborn.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 26 April 2020 2:25:37 PM
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Hi Foxy,

Terrible acts of violence perpetrated against innocent people, justified by the state as necessary, and often supported by the majority of citizens.

If a savage dog attacks you, then you have to defend yourself. Those here who simply see the act of the dog attacking in isolation, do not understand, they only see the end, not the beginning. If the dog had been treated with love and kindness when it was a puppy then there would be no savage attack, and no need to defend oneself. Unfortunately the aggressor is more often than not the victor.

Some here believe Australians are always the good guys in war, untrue.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/new-allegations-unarmed-civilians-killed-by-sas-in-afghanistan/12028448
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 26 April 2020 3:44:37 PM
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Dear Paul,

I'll repeat what I've written in the past.

All over the world, hundreds of thousands of
scientists and engineers donate their skills to
planning new and more efficient ways for humans
to kill one another: millions of workers labour
to manufacture instruments of death, and tens of
millions of soldiers train for combat - and
some of them actually go to war.

From a moral and even an economic point of view this
vast investment of human ingenuity and energy seems
a tragic waste.

And looming over all these military preparations and
counterpreparations is humanity's ultimate threat, the
unleashing of full-scale nuclear war.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 26 April 2020 4:35:03 PM
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What a miserable bunch of up tight, up themselves, holier than thou bunch of loud mouths and preaching pontificators and total naifs the Leftists are - living their lives in theory, and whining "violence is never right" when we all "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.”. Lord help them if they ever get a taste of real life, away from skulking over a keyboard clacking out total garbage.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 26 April 2020 4:42:15 PM
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There's a Polish proverb which millenials often
use today:

"Not my circus, not my monkeys."

It's a way of saying - "Don't drag me into your
drama and your issues. I'm not interested in
getting involved."

Now back to the topic:

Israeli educational psychologist Haim Ginott in his
book - "Teacher and Child," wrote about a letter
that teachers would receive from their Principal
each year:

" I am a survivor of a concentration camp. My eyes
saw what no person should witness: gas chambers built by
learned engineers. Children poisoned by educated
physicians. Infants killed by trained nurses. Women and
babies shot by high school and college graduates.

So I am suspicious of education.

My request is this:

Help your children become human. Your efforts must never
produce learned monsters, skilled psychopaths or educated
Eichmanns.

Reading, writing and arithmetic are important only if they
serve to make our children more human."

This has become the mission statement and educational
philosophy of some Holocaust education institutions
and education was what Weary Dunlop practiced. I organised
a speaking engagement for him and his artist at our
regional library for him. I ended up not being able to sit
through the entire session because the drawings were so
graphic and the soldiers feet looked like raw meat.
It was so emotive.

Weary may have started with hatred in his heart towards
his enemy - but over the years that changed to
forgiveness.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 26 April 2020 6:57:58 PM
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Nathan,

"The double standards of Is Mise and others, are rampant throughout the above link..."

Care to give an example?

Foxy,

Did you read about Weary's pistols?

I've looked in the War Diaries but can't find a mention.

The pistols were, as I remember, his personal Browning Pocket Pistols in 7.35mm calibre.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 26 April 2020 8:28:53 PM
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