For those who do not follow Joe Rogan's podcasts they can be an acquired taste but this one I thought was obviously topical so I thought I would share it.

Joe's skill is bringing a layman's curiosity to the discussion and asking the kind of questions most of us would like to put.

I found it engaging and informative. Hope others might do the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw

Steele, interesting pod cast, watched about 30 mins. Not to be alarmist, in 1919 'The Spanish Flu' killed 15,000 Australians in a population of 5 million. With about 300,000 spectators it appears The Australian Grand Prix has been called off after a two-hour crisis meeting overnight.

Hi Paul,

I should have posted this 15 minute grab of it an let people watch, as I did, the whole thing if they wanted.
http://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw?t=904

They did divert into diseases infecting the deer population in the US but I found it interesting none the less. The get back to addressing the coronavirus at about the 33 minute mark.

It was good that they addressed some of the myths surrounding the virus. It starts here; http://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw?t=904 but you will have seen it already.

It really is a matter of numbers, as the video says this will go through the community one way or another with 50% of us becoming infected. What is important is we try any stop the numbers spiking and overwhelming of health services capacity. It would appear the best time to get this is as later as possible, when treatments are refined and the bulk of the expected spike has moved through the system.

I had someone tell me that there are hospitals in Melbourne that are triaging in the carparks. People are advised to remain in their cars and medical teams examine them there. Interesting times.

The WHO has released a statement saying that only one in 6 people will became seriously ill with this virus. Only one in 6!
You are correct, the more we stretch out new infections, the better hospitals will be able to cope, but even a small part of the population getting sick at once is going to put a severe strain on our health system. According to stories coming out of Italy, many people need to go onto a ventilator, even young people, and as an old nurse, I know that we don’t have enough ventilators in this country to cope with these type of numbers, especially if pregnant women get the virus and go into early labour. They might not need a ventilator but their premature baby will.
Here in the Kimberley, health staff are extremely concerned about the virus getting into the aboriginal population, especially those in remote communities because so many have chronic diseases and compromised immune systems.
Let’s hope everyone does the right thing regarding infection control measures.

"I had someone tell me that there are hospitals in Melbourne that are triaging in the carparks. "

As I battle my own personal war against mortality, I visited the local GP yesterday. They have a gigantic sign outside the entrance asking anyone who'd visited the usual countries (USA not listed!!) or who had a temperature, or a sniffle,or a cough or a sore throat or .... to stay outside and alert the receptionist who would alert a doctor.

Sure enough there were two couples outside being attended by a doctor in what could have easily passed for a haz-med suit. Said doc was running back and forth to get all the equipment he needed to diagnose whatever caused the particular issue.

Speaking to him later, he determined it was an allergy to a local tree pollen, and that one of the suffers had been in to see him every year at this time for a decade for appropriate anti-histamines.

My GP (not the guy in the haz-wed suit) agreed it is insanity to go through all that but that the edict had come from on high.

Meanwhile, in Australia approximately 3000 people will die of plain old vanilla flu' this year.

Just another example of the fact that humankind NEEDS to be panicked about something. But stay calm...once this is over we can go back to fretting over AGW.

Dear mhaze,

Yes I think those of us who are struggling health wise will need to be particularly cautious.

This is what is happening in Washington State at the moment where it has entered elderly facilities, King County: 83 cases, 17 deaths as of a couple of days ago.

As to comparing it to the Spanish Flu this is how Michael Osterholm addressed it in the video.
http://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw?t=2165

Dear Big Nana,

Even more concerning are reports of permanent lung damage with lung transplants post infection occurring already.

As mentioned in the video the obesity rates of Americans compared to Chinese numbers is a real issue impacting recovery rates, something Australia is not immune from either.

Dear Big Nana,

Your concerns about the indigenous communities are echoed by this doctor;

A doctor working in a remote community writes for Guardian Australia anonymously: "I am a doctor in a small, remote hospital with a predominantly Aboriginal patient load. My colleagues and I know we are facing an unprecedented disaster when Covid-19 takes hold in our area.

"Our patients are already among the sickest in the world. They suffer from diabetes, heart disease, obesity and hypertension more severely and at a younger age than any other group anywhere. The rates of kidney and respiratory disease are sky-high. We see sepsis on a daily basis. We see people dying of preventable disease in their 30s, 40s and 50s. I have been a doctor for over 30 years. I have worked all over the world. These patients are the most ill I have ever looked after.

"When Covid-19 hits, we are expecting very high death rates among our vulnerable Aboriginal patients, and there are a lot of them."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/mayhem-looms-just-around-the-corner-diary-from-the-frontline-of-the-coronavirus-health-crisis

Unfortunately there is already some disturbing language coming from the right wing media on this.

‘Not to put too fine a point on it, from an entirely disinterested economic perspective, the COVID-19 might even prove mildly beneficial in the long term by disproportionately culling elderly dependents.’

http://metro.co.uk/2020/03/11/telegraph-journalist-says-coronavirus-cull-elderly-benefit-economy-12383907

Hey SteeleRedux,

I've only watched a bit of your video, I'll watch more later but I thought I'd share this:

Engineered Bat Virus Debate Over Risky Research
http://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787

"An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks."

- I got my info from today's episode of 'The Last American Vagabond' on YouTube.
His last 4 episodes have been pretty good in regards to the COVID-19.
Lengthy, but worth watching for the info.

China/Iran Accuse US Gov Of Bio-Attack & Trump Possibly Infected & Iran Blamed For Rocket Attack
http://youtu.be/O2xZ1mrHUwM

Bats, Gene Editing and Bioweapons: Recent DARPA Experiments Raise Concerns Amid Coronavirus Outbreak

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/top-news/bats-gene-editing-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

- Whitney Webb, who wrote this article is an outstanding investigative journalist.

Issue 1.
COVID-19 didn't start in the market in China.
It most likely came from US Bioweapons lab in Fort Detrich.

Issue 2.
A second strain was in all likeliness weaponised by Israel to attack Iran.
This strain also inadvertantly affected Italians, who genome is very similar to Iranians.

The truth is out, it's just likely that your news isn't going to tell it to you.

More Evidence New Coronavirus Started In The US & Iraq Gov Says US Missiles Killed Civilians, Police
http://youtu.be/crUXWSD-MjU

Hi AC, your line of argument on the origins of the COVID-19 virus are certainly plausible. Who would have the most to gain from shutting down the Chinese economy, America that's who. The Economic War between the two countries, has been going badly for the Americans, considering it was the yanks who started it in the first place, another American war. China is no tin pot little basket case that the Americans can take direct military action against, although they have been as belligerent as they dare to be without provoking all out war. Same with Israel/Iran, to coincidental to be an accident.

Hey Paul1405,

Well, it's really not my argument.
I'm just sharing the video, it's others who put it together.

I don't want others to think that because I sometimes post content which may be construed as being 'conspiratorial' or 'anti-semitic', that what I'm sharing should be ignored or dismissed.

It shouldn't be ignored or dismissed, and I invite yourself and others TO NOT believe me, but to take the time to find out the facts and make a more informed opinion for yourselves.

I could share some of the details of the videos, and try to summarise them, but there's just too much info that you'll miss.
If you skip the first 30mins of the above video you'll get straight to the Coronavirus info, but there's at least a good hour or so of info;
He doesn't start getting right into the good stuff till about 90mins in, but you need the back story to get there.

Going through the timeline of events, the different virus strains and so much more info that lays it all out.

I'd really like someone else here to watch it and go over it, so that we have another forum member other than myself looking at the info.

They're long, but they're worth it.
You'll get all the details with links to back it all up.

For example:
'Between 2009 and 2012 the US has experienced 1059 events where pathogens had been stolen or escaped from their Biolabs.
That's once every 3 days.'

These are the links for the current show.
You can find them in the first comment, beneath the show description.
I wanted to show you he's thorough and provides a reference to everything he discusses on each show, so that people won't dismiss the information just because I've posted it.

Coronavirus
http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-declares-national-emergency-over-coronavirus-pandemic
http://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/1582133514823-be4368438bd042e3b60f5cec6b377d17/Stafford_June_2019_508.pdf
http://primacentral.org/resources/Stafford%20Act%20FAQs.pdf
http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-intelligence-unsettling-role-classified-9-11-like-coronavirus-response/265687/
http://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/europe-is-now-the-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-who-says.html
http://nypost.com/2020/03/13/louisiana-postpones-presidential-primary-due-to-coronavirus-outbreak/
http://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-issues/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnXAyj31hTA
http://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-further-evidence-virus-originated-us/5706078
http://sputniknews.com/us/202003131078560778-us-summons-chinese-envoy-over-claims-that-american-military-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan---official/
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back
http://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101
http://twitter.com/B_Rich33NO/status/1238289067827175424
http://apnews.com/5866bf32d5723402d2df32baa844fff3
http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/03/13/620755/us-coronavirus-test-denied
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sick-people-across-the-us-say-they-are-being-denied-the-coronavirus-test/ar-BB117d9s?ocid=spartanntp
http://twitter.com/soureh_design/status/1238194527439126536
http://twitter.com/RottenInDenmark/status/1237842075745259524
http://twitter.com/markberman/status/1238162210846838785
http://twitter.com/SawyerHackett/status/1238150036812378113
http://twitter.com/deray/status/1238449698513530880
http://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1238218894776639488
http://sputniknews.com/society/202003131078558962-ivanka-trump-met-australian-minister-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/
http://kyma.com/decision-2020/2020/03/13/the-white-house-calculus-on-testing-president-trump-is-changing/
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/03/news-nugget-about-the-coronavirus-pandemic.html
http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238410044263333894
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/13/cruelty-charts-trump-blocks-states-expanding-medicaid-response-coronavirus
http://www.globalresearch.ca/in-a-europe-closed-down-by-the-coronavirus-the-eu-opens-its-doors-to-the-us-army/5706133
Iran/Coronavirus
http://twitter.com/shafei_d/status/1238055034908217345
http://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1237513338072059907
http://twitter.com/TylerCullis/status/1237778010012635136
http://twitter.com/TylerCullis/status/1238157423367671814
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/italy-has-abandoned-us-people-are-being-trapped-at-home-with-their-loved-ones-bodies-amid-coronavirus-lockdown/ar-BB115sYP?ocid=spartanntp#image=BBZaM5o%7c5
http://twitter.com/ehsanmansuri/status/1238179351440633860
http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/iran-coronavirus-outbreak-graves/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
http://twitter.com/venanalysis/status/1238274087740411904
http://twitter.com/AssalRad/status/1238508777390784512
Overlooked US Government Actions Due To Coronavirus Fear
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/earn-it-bill-governments-not-so-secret-plan-scan-every-message-online
http://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3398/actions?KWICView=false
http://www.rt.com/news/482942-us-military-nuclear-microreactor/

worse news since the US election, Trump coronavirus test just came back negative.