Last year ended with 709,600 Australians unemployed, an increase of 34,400 from the beginning of the year. It beggars belief that a large number of these people, who should be looking for work, are not trainable and/or employable. They might not be needed or wanted in their inner city lairs, but the regions are crying out for them - or so we are told.

Instead, the workers needed in the regions should be filled by unskilled migrants, who won’t mind the “dirty”, “smelly” jobs that Australia’s unemployed refuse to do, according to Julian Leeser, MP, member for Berowara, and chairman of a Federal Joint Committee on the matter.


No mention of the unskilled migrants already here, idly swanning around in the large cities with the other unemployed, at tax payer expense. No, lets bring more in to add to the useless bunch of people putting strain on our utilities and services and infrastructure.

In a recent interview, Leeser, MP, also complained about ‘red tape’ and things like the minimum wages “that had to be paid to immigrant workers”. Obviously, the elites are not only reluctant to get our own huge number of unemployed out into the regions, they also want to introduce a LOWER WAGE regime.

Demonstrating that he was not on the ball, the committee chairman’s only reference to these dirty, smelly jobs the regions couldn’t fill was, in the Clare valley - shortages of chefs, winemakers and cellar door salespeople. Last I time looked, the first two were professional jobs requiring qualifications, and the latter required a knowledge of wine - not something many unskilled immigrants would possess.

I’m sure there are unskilled jobs going, but if that’s the barrow you are pushing, surely those are the jobs you would mention. Which begs the question, how smart are these people on Joint Committees, and should we listen to them.

That a Liberal MP wants wages to be lower is hardly surprising!

Regardless of our immigration rate, the government could easily create enough jobs for everyone by running expansionary fiscal and monetary policy.

That a Liberal MP wants wages to be lower is hardly surprising!
Aidan,
You reckon the Opposition parties would be agreeable to lower Public Service salaries & benefits ?
I'm all for those salaries to be curbed by at least 10% & those over 500 Grand/year by 15%
This Govt should follow the example of QANTAS ! Quite a move by Alan Joyce !
Are our bureaucrats up to the challenge ?

individual,
>You reckon the Opposition parties would be agreeable to lower Public Service salaries & benefits ?
Of course not, what a stupid question!
For over three decades (possibly much longer) Labor have constantly advocated sustainable improvements.

Immigration Lawyers & bureaucrats ensure that decent people have it extremely difficult to get here ! Those who can afford to fork out are of course ushered in !
The evidence is all around us & the results are impacting on our lives more each day !

The point is: O.7 million unemployed, but mass immigration continues. Since the de-industrialisation of Australia only dirty smelly jobs are left - 60,000 according to people who claim to know. If they cannot get that many from the ranks of the long term unemployed without looking for migrants, they don't know their arses from their elbows. There are simply too many people in Australia: proven by the presence of almost three quarters of a million people not working while the country gets by perfectly well without their input.

Lesser, the member for sandstone cliffs and unusable scrub country, commonly called a national park.
Ignore the toffy little P*

Dan

Australians themselves aren't exactly blameless. Either they think they're too good for some work or they're unemployable drug abusing gits. Of course, bringing in unemployables families of 6-10 isn't a solution either.
A National Service would be a guaranteed solution but the git parents of snowflakes don't want to change things for the better because risking the comfort of status quo for decency is too much for them !

individual,

Yes. 700,000 unemployed Australians. If there are jobs available, surely some of them could take them up: young single ones for starters. They should be advised that they will take up these regional jobs, or any jobs available, or they will find themselves without income because their dole money will be cut off. There is nothing onerous or unfair about that. Successive governments have not had the guts to do it. They are pathetic, preferring to bring in foreigners. This goes right back to John Howard's day.

No work, no money.

I expect to see a full blown recession come November due to the coronavirus pandemic so it will be interesting to see how much unemployment grows.

How about cancelling permanent residency visas on a last in / first out basis? Or how about doing what the US does to keep the unemployment figures low: incarcerate them?

All immigration, apart from the odd case of actual need (Australia's) should have ceased years ago.

ttbn,

<<Last year ended with 709,600 Australians unemployed, an increase of 34,400 from the beginning of the year. It beggars belief that a large number of these people, who should be looking for work, are not trainable and/or employable. They might not be needed or wanted in their inner city lairs, but the regions are crying out for them - or so we are told.
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That's what jobs online indicates.

How many immigrants are prepared to take up these jobs in outback Qld? http://au.jora.com/Outback-jobs-in-Queensland.

I realise some of them are in the medical profession that require special training.

Looks as though the migration problems have been solved, courtesy of COVID-19 !

Since my last Post COVID-19 appears to have killed off GW also. Wow ! Two birds with one stone !

It's an extremely complex battle that is going on between the different vested interests with respect to immigration and employment.

For example farm work-

generally seasonal, often very low pay (less than award), can be dangerous (there appears to be a higher number of accidents), often requires good fitness, may require travelling long distances to work.

Immigrants and working holiday people will do this work for free or lower wages because they aren't doing it for the money- they are doing it for the opportunity of getting residency or a longer visa.

It's hard for the individual farmers because they have to sell into a market in which they are competing with foreign imports that have even lower standards of OHS, wages.

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Standard solutions to compete with a competitor with lower costs is to invest in technology or increase scale. I believe that if Australia wants to have a future identity for its children and people Free Trade Liberalism won't achieve it. Socialism is a similar system to Capitalism in the fact they are both globalized- the main difference is who manages the system.

The larger the market the greater the opportunity for profit- that's perhaps why the biggest businesses in the best position to exploit this opportunity want this- but should we be pursuing profit at the expense of everything and everyone else- of course not. Balance is required. Sun Tzu said that an army that continues to find new battles will eventually burn itself out- but it will leave a burnt out waste land as it's legacy. Profit comes from productivity and productivity is very important for any group of people (or even animals) but if this years productivity hurts next years productivity is it productive?? Different peoples view of what productivity is is different- for example some people believe that if Australia produces things in a way that takes away their childrens, their families, their cultures future then why should they support it.

For me- if Australia's productivity benefits someone else- why should I contribute. Some might say you do benefit- as if I'm deluded as to my perception of reality- but really so that they can continue to benefit from the assymmetry. I agree the world isn't fair- Jordan Petersen says that value leads to inequality leads to hierarchy- others have said freedom is not free- perhaps if we can keep more of the governing at the small scale rather than the large it will be fairer. The people should govern themselves more rather like parochial societies (parish societies)- sometimes they will need to come together to deal with common problems.

The problem with hierarchy is the ones at the base are disempowered and alienated. So perhaps there need to be standards and principles to prevent bracket creep in power structures. As hierarchies contain more and more people with complex interactions this is becoming more and more necessary.

There is the claim that social security is socialist in nature but they aren't the only political system that uses forms of social security in different situations- the communists are often subversive agents that seek to make western countries unsustainable. You could argue that the military is a socialist system I guess.

Maybe this is a point where we could go back to "basic principles" on what society is and what a persons role is within society. Of course the socialists will argue that our view is biased by our environment (tradition) and therefore is wrong- but this doesn't mean that socialists/ communists are right.

Where does this leave us? No one is right? With Nihilism? Maybe Existential Subjectivism?
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For example Taxi work-

This seemed that it used to be one of the "go to" jobs for those that needed a bit of money- such as students and the young- there is some barrier to entry as you need a licence but if you worked for a few months in restaurant work you could raise the necessary funds to pay for it.

Some people claimed that they couldn't get a taxi quickly at three am on a Monday night because the Australian's wouldn't stay out if they only made $2 per hour so we needed to bring in more immigrants to because Australian's were just unwilling to do this sort of work. As the immigrants came into the industry they were willing to work for $2/hour and permenant residency. And to make Australia pay for the high cost of the University fees- rather than our intention to obtain valuable foreign money. One interesting lesson of how the money has flowed from poor but productive hard working Australian's -to- relatively "well off" Universities selling out Australia -to- foreign interests that aren't able to manage their populations or nations.

Now most of the taxi work is seemingly dominated by indians and other new immigrants seeking to come to Australia for economic benefits.

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One of the consequences of Liberalism both Social and Economic (Communists and Capitalists) has been to ignominiously relegate the working poor to unemployment and abuse rather than providing the ladders of success of honorable productive and sustaining work.

If we want to fix the issue of unemployment we need to try to create these ladders of success- and finding people at the bottom nurture them into tall trees. Once upon a time perhaps if people were found to be idle or sick the community gathered around them- multi-culturalism/ multi-communalism hasn't improved this- I find that this philosophy is best embodied in Traditional Parochialism.

Everyone goes to work for the same reason.

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The arguments for different positions on immigration, social security, business, government is highly political and often the view points are typically highly biased in favour of the presenter and their political groups power. Usually on analysis simple posiions are not so simple- and lead you to unexpected uncomfortable conclusions.

ttbn,

<<the workers needed in the regions should be filled by unskilled migrants, who won’t mind the “dirty”, “smelly” jobs that Australia’s unemployed refuse to do, according to Julian Leeser, MP, member for Berowara, and chairman of a Federal Joint Committee on the matter.>>

I am not suggesting alternatives for overseas students who need to be in the major or regional cities and may be taxi drivers.

There are jobs in Australia that Aussies will not do. Take a read of the article, 'Why Aussies aren’t rushing to fill the thousands of vacant mining jobs', http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/mining/why-aussies-arent-rushing-to-fill-the-thousands-of-vacant-mining-jobs/news-story/ada130f16c04d3c6dd61e964eb82632e

So, there are tens of thousands of well-paid jobs, particularly in the mining industry, but Aussies don't want to endure the tough conditions. That's why we still need migration visas.

Yes, there are many jobs for specialists in their field, however there are those with job descriptions like this:

Driller Assistants
Listed six days ago6d agoat Boart Longyear

This is a Casual/Vacation job
location: DarwinDarwinclassification: Mining, Resources & EnergyMining, Resources & Energy
subClassification: Mining - Exploration & GeoscienceMining - Exploration & Geoscience

FIFO from Darwin
Excellent ongoing training and developmental opportunities
Expressions of Interest for May 2020 start

We are now looking for Expressions of Interest for Driller Assistants flying ex Darwin for project starting early Mary 2019, http://www.seek.com.au/mining-jobs

seek.com has over 2,000 job vacancies in rural Australia, http://www.seek.com.au/rural-jobs

seek.com has 1,457 rural farm vacancies, http://www.seek.com.au/farm-jobs

If these jobs can't be filled by Aussies, I understand why managers seek employees from overseas and even sponsor them to come here.

OzSpen- Thanks for the article, very interesting ...
There are jobs in Australia that Aussies will not do. Take a read of the article, 'Why Aussies aren’t rushing to fill the thousands of vacant mining jobs', http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/mining/why-aussies-arent-rushing-to-fill-the-thousands-of-vacant-mining-jobs/news-story/ada130f16c04d3c6dd61e964eb82632e

Canem,

That's the same link I gave in my post.

What "Aussies don't want to do" is irrelevant. No work, no money should be the vogue, not allowing bludgers to do nothing by bringing in culturally challenged, often unhygienic foreigners is simply lazy and stupid.

"Not allowing" should be "allowing". I sometimes get frustrated when people make excuses for lazy could-be workers and governments.