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Deniers, your time is up!

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"Of course you are anti-Semitic, it generally comes with the conspiracy theory territory."

Well I think it's a stupid made up word that doesn't mean anything.

Under democracy it's not only good that I judge and criticise the leadership of the country, it's essential.

For anyone to say that I'm an anti-Semite if I criticise the actions of the government of Israel, then who cares, I'm an anti-Semite.
I'll criticise my own government as is my right and I'll criticise any other if I think the issue holds merit.
- Are you saying that's not my right?

If I say Jews used boycotts on German first, then I'm an Anti-Semite
If I oppose Zionism, and say Jews had no right to forcibly remove Palestinians from their homes, then I'm an Anti-Semite
Why should I support Jews right to exist if they wont even state their borders?
If I say they had no right of ownership to the Golan Heights, I'm an anti-smite.
Who decided on the definition of what an Anti-Semite is anyway not me, and I don't give a hoot for all the PC BS.
As for the 'Holocaust' guilt trip, I refuse to take responsibility for anything that happened before I was born.
If I criticise Jews in any way shape or form I'm an anti-semite.

I don't whinge and whine and cry and make laws that call you out as Anti-Australian.

No other nation uses the word anti-'own nation'.
Jews cannot be anti-semites, that makes them self-hating Jew, so if only non-Jews can be anti-semites, and it's a word used to denigrate (and silence criticism of Jews or Israel) is that not like saying only white people are allowed to use the word n-i-g-g-e-r?

If I say the vast majority whom are Ashkennazi Jews aren't even semites and aren't even related to the 12 tribes of Israel, then I'm an anti-semite.
The whole thing is stupid.

It's like someone had a brainfart and convinced you all to go along with it, and somehow you did.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 6:31:19 PM
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By falling for this anti-semite crap, what you're all actually doing is observing and obeying Noahide Law, that is you are inadvertantly giving your consent to a Jewish religious theocracy.
I'm real sorry but this is a secular country, and 18D says my right to say what I believe is exempt from 18C if it's an extension of my true beliefs.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 6:38:01 PM
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Cost of climate inaction
When anyone such as Labor proposes meaningful climate action, the Libs demand, have you costed your emissions targets? They chant Zero emissions, zero jobs.
We should ask the Libs: Have YOU costed your business-as-usual plan?

1. The Once-Great Barrier Reef was valued at $56B (Deloittes), and is half gone (AIMS).

2. The damage from bushfires is estimated as $100B (The Conversation). And that’s only in one season!

3. Drought, floods and lost food production are yet to be assessed.

4. Loss of habitat and wildlife are not yet included. All are attributed largely to climate change, which is caused mainly by burning of fossil fuels.

The true cost of inaction over the decades will be orders greater still.
Posted by Ian Bryce, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 6:52:38 PM
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The Great Barrier Reef is being regenerated.
http://reefrestorationfoundation.org/?gclid=CjwKCAjwmKLzBRBeEiwACCVihr5MWmnA4UTFSDjfwYK1XJ5C8BKB921ttQZxc63WL3CjUhRtLanhABoC2i4QAvD_BwE

The Bush fires were not caused by Climate Change, They were caused by an overload of dry combustible growth and lightning strikes, arson and backburns got out of control.

Food production is higher now than ever thanks to CO2 plant food.

The loss of fauna habitat has nothing to do with fossil fuels, and everything to do with bushfires. These fires have been happening for thousands of years
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 7:28:52 PM
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Could a bit of selective ocean fertilisation alter the rainfall probability? I read of ocean fertilisation as a means of carbon capture, but I don't read of it as a means of trapping heat in the ocean surface: An algal bloom can do this. The question of how this might alter rainfall can only be answered with research, yet that research will not happen, not because of Jew hating conspiracy theorists, but because of opposition by a number of catastrophists who believe that such research will cause billions to die of thirst, the death of all marine life, etc.

The science has been hijacked by ideologists. Put a Marxist tag on something and you wreck any chance of bipartisan support.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 9:59:05 PM
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Hi Ian Bryce,

Here's what I think, though what I think isn't worth much.
I know little about all the technical modelling and stuff about 'climate change'. But I do know of a few things like Milankovich cycles and Maunder Minimums.

"1. The Once-Great Barrier Reef was valued at $56B (Deloittes), and is half gone (AIMS)."

I don't really care what it's $ value is, but I care if its inadvertently ruined needlessly for future generations.

Tell me much of whats happening on the reef is attributed to cane farmers and other agricultural activities pumping crap out onto the reef and how many big ships motor through there to Gladstone, and what crap do they dump on the reefs?
What other human activities cause more harm to the reef than is necessary?
People wearing suncream?
Surely you can't blame everything on climate change?

Would you say these things are caused by climate change or poor policies?

"2. The damage from bushfires is estimated as $100B (The Conversation). And that’s only in one season!"

Is the glass half full or is it half empty.
The bushfires brought rains the 'experts never predicted' so we should be thankful.
What does that say about the 'experts'?
Maybe if we burned the bush more often maybe we'd get more rain.

Shouldn't Labour and the Greens policies be the ones in the spotlight?
Was it not their environmental policies that hamstrung fire services ability to conduct fuel reduction?

(I will say it was this governments fault for ignoring calls for more water bombers prior to the bushfires though, and Morrison was a jerk no scratch that, an idiot for going on holiday.)

"3. Drought, floods and lost food production are yet to be assessed."
- Refer to Item 2;
Floods and rains aren't the governments fault any more than it's not your fault you can't rain dance and provide water for the farmers.
- But they are responsible for the policies and decisions they make and they can always do better.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:17:41 PM
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