SR,

wrote: "Nick off mate. Firstly the topic of the thread is Is Bettina Arndt a Fit and Proper Person? so quite specifically about the person."

Oh so we're just looking at her in isolation? Just picked someone at random to evaluate their character? Nothing to do with her award? Nothing to do with her decades of writing and advocacy? Struth what a dill.

As to Pascoe, I wrote extensively about his theories (well unsupported assertions really) and examined their veracity. I engaged in discussion about book(s) and his claims. I looked into those who supported and opposed him. Only when others (and he) claimed that him being aboriginal trumped all errors or opposition from non-aboriginals, did I examine his ancestry.

Do you see the difference between that and someone just asserting that they don't like what she says and will therefore attack her character? Do you see that? Probably not. And if you did you wouldn't acknowledge it because you'd be left with nothing to say.

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Paul wrote: "On the matter of Bettina Arndt, other than the books, and social commendatory, I can't see where she has done anything substantive in a practical way that justifies an Order of Australia award, can you?"

Apart from her life's work, what has she ever done?

"Reg:
All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?"

Once again the morons on OLO gather in the field, complete with pitchforks and chanting something they don't even understand, in readiness to march on another misguided cause.
What is the matter with those of you who speak out against this woman?
She is one of very few voices, and women, prepared to go to battle for US, MEN!
What goes on in your minds, to even think about attacking her.
In this day and age, when the maggots abound and the neuters have turned on what few MEN are left, we don't need this needless and counter productive attitude and dissent.
What has she done to deserve recognition?
A sh!t load more than all of US put together.
Remember, before anyone has another negative crack at her, she is on our side.
Those of you worried about her title are way off track, who cares whether she is a doctor or a cleaner, you idiots have missed the boat completely.
How many NON-professional people with NO titles have, in the past dedicated their lives to a cause?
Those of you, especially the men, should be ashamed of yourselves for even thinking about slapping the hand that is trying to pull you out of this social sh!t the maggots have been allowed to put us in.
And WE MEN allowed and facilitated them, only for them to turn on us, just as two faced lying, scheming feminazi bitches would.
As for whether she is justified in defending some men who you and the courts have decided to be unfit for public consumption, well, has anybody looked into the reasons for these acts of social discord?
I'm the guy that always asks WHY!
I don't just blindly follow the plebs over the cliff because I'm too lazy to ask the hard questions.
There is always the facts, and then there is the truth.

Dear mhaze,

You wrote;

“Oh so we're just looking at her in isolation? Just picked someone at random to evaluate their character? Nothing to do with her award? Nothing to do with her decades of writing and advocacy? Struth what a dill.

What self serving twaddle.

You lot have had thread after thread hunting after Bruce Pascoe and when one is posted asking the question of one of the right's darlings your heads explode.

“Oh so we're just looking at her in isolation?” In isolation to what. She is the topic but we have referenced Bob Brown, Brendan Nelson and Pascoe so far so what on earth are you talking about?

“Just picked someone at random to evaluate their character?” No, she has been awarded a significant Australian honour and just as you lot have questioned Pascoe winning a literary award this is many times more prestigious.

“Nothing to do with her award?” It has everything to do with her award.

“Nothing to do with her decades of writing and advocacy?” No it is about her fitness to receive an award given the numerous instances of her either misrepresenting her qualifications or permitting others to do so without correction from her.

You said; “Only when others (and he) claimed that him being aboriginal trumped all errors or opposition from non-aboriginals, did I examine his ancestry.” That is not what you did at all but leaving that aside my first post on this thread stated I had no problem with her making provocative statements so I most certainly wasn't “someone just asserting that they don't like what she says and will therefore attack her character?”

The question of her smarminess about her qualifications is indeed legitimate and I'm not sure given the abundance of evidence of many instances of such that you would put it all down to a determination to attack her character.

Why are you so defensive of this women? Just because she is supporting your view of the world doesn't mean she is untouchable.

What a dill indeed.

Porky,

You thought up the Porky Awards for those that you claim are not telling the truth, so I've awarded you the soubriquet of 'Porky' as you are an outstanding potential recipient but you can hardly award yourself your own award.

So ALTRAV, you have no problem with this woman claiming to be Aboriginal when she is clearly not! Sorry she claims to be a psychologist and clinical psychologist, happy to allow others to address her as "doctor" when she is clearly not any of those things. Happy to have the woman attack child victims of rape, and defend the guilty male adults. You seem to think much the say way, judging by your posts.

What I do agree with is the majority of her advocacy for men in what is a reasonably unjust family law situation, that exists in Australia. The falsehoods concerning her misrepresentation of her qualifications, her support for criminals, and her attacks on child victims are they alone enough to exclude her from honours, I believe so. On top of all that what has she actually done, anything of note above and beyond the "call of duty" to warrant such a prestigious and meritorious award? Diddly squat, that's what. A social commemorator, should give Bill the plumber a gong for his life long devotion to pipes and drains. The woman has done sweet FA, must have friends in high places. Ah!

Porky,

"...The woman has done sweet FA, must have friends in high places. Ah!"

Egalitarian friends?