Paul, Should we do anything to curb the behaviour of angry men; beside class them as monsters and criminals? What would you do to change their attitudes?

Josephus, here's another question we should also be asking people who suffer from the same dillusions as Paul, and that is:
Should we do anything to curb the behaviour of angry WOMEN; Beside class them as monsters and criminals? What would YOU do to change their attitudes?

Altrav,

That mongrel murdered his three small children and his wife. His wife seems to have done nothing - no lunging with a knife, no stabbing, no provocations at all - and he murdered her and their beautiful kids.

Isn't that so ? So what's the point of your 'alternative hypothesis' if it clearly wasn't going to happen that way ?

Yes, of course, Josephus, there have to be much earlier warnings within domestic relationships, perhaps an encouragement on both parties to seek confidential advice, or at least someone to talk to, and supportive programs such as anger management (perhaps called something else less direct) for both partners, programs with no blame inferred n either party, but which can bring a relationship back to how it is supposed to be, loving and mutually understanding.

Particularly in those early, stressful years, when a woman necessarily has to take time out to raise young kids (and the combined income falls just at a time when it is needed), relationships counselling or whatever it may be called, is vital.

Joe

Hi Joe, thanks for that, I've said several times on this thread there are instances of fathers being treated unfairly by the family court, particularly in relation to child access.

That has nothing to do with this particular instance. ALTRAV despite his often claimed "fountain of knowledge" rubbish, is simply looking for mitigation, and then in a perverted way justification for the actions of Rowan Baxter. I wont have a bar of that nonsense. Regardless of the prior circumstance, courts AVO's, access, what his wife was or wasn't, Baxter crossed a line, and he put himself firmly and solely on the other side of that line. There is no mitigation, and certainly no justification for what he done. ALTRAV and his "what if" nonsense speaks for what kind of perverted thinker he is more than anything.

Hi Josephus, you ask; "Should we do anything to curb the behaviour of angry men; beside class them as monsters and criminals? What would you do to change their attitudes?"

Many men/people are angry with a system that tries to impose a legal solution to what is a social problem, family breakup. In the narrow context of Rowan Baxter no one could see what was coming. In broader terms the system is, if not completely broken, then in need of some kind of overhaul. Its a fact that more than one woman a week dies because of domestic violence, much of it related to family breakup. A national summit, involving all stake holders to firstly identify where the system is failing, and come up with solutions for a better way.

Hi ALTRAV, you ask; "Should we do anything to curb the behaviour of angry WOMEN; Beside class them as monsters and criminals? What would YOU do to change their attitudes?"

Put blokes like you in a cage and let in the angry women.

Loudmouth, with respect, please don't join in the chorus of people who follow the crowd and state the obvious.
I know what he did is a vial and despicable act of cowardice and absolutely criminal.
Like Ms Andt, I always look at WHY.
Why did it come to this, for what was regarded as a nice guy, this was a shock and beyond extreme!
WHY?
I don't dwell on the obvious, because it tells me nothing of what led to this situation.
You see what EVERYONE fails to understand is, that by knowing what really led to this awful tragedy, just might in fact lead us to the answer on how to curb or eliminate it altogether.
So people like myself, or even Arndt for that matter, become vilified and abused for being the only ones trying to find the reasons why and ask the hard, awful, distasteful, hurtful questions.
When police are trying to solve a murder, they are not interested in being careful about what questions they ask, no matter how hurtful and provocative they may be, they have to ask those questions otherwise they will never uncover the TRUTH, which lead them to the answers and solving the crime.
I hope this goes some way to describing why I am not of the same mindset or psyche as everyone else.
So please when next you read something you find offensive, please stop and think, what am I thinking about.
If not please ask me, without any tone of malice or aggression, and I will be more than happy and willing to explain.

ALTRAV,

"You see what EVERYONE fails to understand is, that by knowing what really led to this awful tragedy, just might in fact lead us to the answer on how to curb or eliminate it altogether."

No, you would rather invent a nonsense, a fabrication, which you did looking for mitigation and justification of the actions of Rowan Baxter. This is what you said;

"I don't think him expecting his wife to conduct herself in a fit and proper manner, especially where there are children involved, is too much to ask, and being anal about such things is not a bad thing.
Who knows what she was getting up to and with whom, especially with children in the mix." NICE BIT OF MITAGATION.

Then this gem; "I'm sure we will eventually get to know, but what if she had the knife as protection, he throws petrol over everyone, at the right moment, she lunges at him and stabs him furiously whilst he is focused on throwing the petrol around the inside of the car.
He manages to set it alight, then staggers back, only to fall on the verge where he died from his wounds." Straight out of Agatha Christie fiction! Try to CREATE FALSE JUSTIFICATION. You are so full of it!

A fool, you want to read and listen to what people who knew Rowan Baxter, his deep dark history of controlling, of violence etc! You are the one who knows nothing.