I think we could all do with a break from climate change. It has reached the boring stage, when someone - probably just looking for an argument - finds something that irritates someone else, and a silly yes/no brouhaha any 5 year old would enjoy, starts and drags on until tiny minds finally get sick of it. Nothing new is said, and the combatants have no power to do anything about the climate anyway.

I suppose that I'm just as bad for making this observation; I should simply ignore the waffle that is just second hand opinion from Google, and enjoy life for what it is. And, that's what I'll be doing in future - climate change is something that nobody can do anything about. Get over it.

Mr O,

For one thing the oxygen in the atmosphere is a result of water molecules being split into hydrogen and oxygen in the upper atmosphere by ultraviolet radiation. The heavier oxygen tends to accumulate in the atmosphere. If there were more ultraviolet radiation, more oxygen would form.

Also, the ozone hole requires light and very low temperatures to form, so there is probably a limit to how large it could grow. Lots of predictions about the utter catastrophe that would result, but I never saw actual evidence of harm presented, such as phytoplankton die offs.

Cheers

The ozone hole being caused by CFCs was simply a trial run for the scam of global warming/cooling being caused by CO2.

The banning of CFCs has had no provable effect on the ozone hole, which continues to grow or shrink at it's own choice.

As we know, it took the scammers a few years to decide whether CO2 would cause warming or cooling, they had to wait until nature chose which part of the cycle it was going to follow.

Now it is swinging back to cooling, hence the panic with global catastrophe ETC., as they know as well as us that it is about to get cold again.

It may be true that there is no fool like an old fool, but the useful idiots beat them hands down for being gullible fools.

Hasbeen,

Are you absolutely sure that you are the first and only person to ever have been awarded a Bachelor of Science in Engineering degree from Sydney University.

You definitely don't come across that way!

ttbn

I think you should take a break from arguing about climate change - permanently!

Take a big breath and shout "BEAM UP ME SCOTTY!"

Hasbeen,

You need to learn to not let SR refine the debate and what you said. You and Gosselin said that there'd been now warming at these sites this century.

So what does SR do.The same thing he always does, which is to completely misrepresent the argument and then show how the new misrepresented claims are wrong. Basic strawman stuff. Its his major form of attack.

You said 'A' but I'll pretend you said 'B' and then tell you what a fool you are for saying 'B'.

The facts are plan. There's been no warming in this location this century. Indeed there's been now warming there for the past 30 years which we are always told by the climate hysterics is the gold standard period.

Prof de Freitas, way back in the 1990s explained that even if the Antarctic were to warm by a few degrees, it wouldn't be a problem because the temperature would still be above 0c. That was way too logical for the hysterics who therefore ignore it.

SR write " [they] then announce breathlessly there is no global warming". Well they said no such thing. But that's SR for ya. Make up your opinion and then tell you how silly that opinion is.

But what this evidence does show that one of the favourite we're-all-gunna-die claims from the climate hysterics is thoroughly debunked.

But don't expect to see that highlighted on the GISS website.

One more interesting fact from the Marambino site. Of the 49years they have data, the average summer temperature exceeded 0c only 6 times and only 2 of those were this century. But shhhhh don't tell anyone.