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The Forum > General Discussion > Is it uncalled for to compensate rural firefighters or perfectly fine?

Is it uncalled for to compensate rural firefighters or perfectly fine?

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hinkabit to answer your questions;

So how do you think I got that money? Does it matter.

Have you accumulated enough wealth to retire early? Yes, and yes I am retired without an aged pension, unlike most of the forums old farts.

Have you ever been your own boss? Yes, I ran my own successful engineering/design business for several years.

Have you ever employed people? Yes, see above.

Are you the usual left-wing whinger who rely on other people to provide them work and opportunity? No, although I have at times had an employer.

Worse still are you living off the government? No, refer to your accumulated wealth question.

A question for you, only one;

Are you a right wing nutter?
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 January 2020 12:48:27 PM
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The problem only arises when it is a long emergency.
I was myself involved in a statewide emergency operation that went for
three weeks. My employer paid my wages while I was involved.
It is normal practise. I have never heard of an employer refusing to pay.
However this has been going on for months, but not all members are
full time involved so rotation should have been possible up to before Xmas.
After that employers should be offered no payroll tax and perhaps a
subsidised payment. I fee sure that such offers would be accepted.
As Paul said, it is a plus for the character of the employee.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 13 January 2020 12:56:55 PM
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Your wrong Thinkabit, I have done rostering during an emergency and
spoke to a number of employers about members and never had a complaint.
The fact that we spoke to them and enquired about the employers
situation made them understand we were considering their situation.
These enquiries were at the request of the member.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 13 January 2020 1:01:22 PM
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One thing for sure is that regressives will always spend more of other people's money than those who have had to earn it. $1 billion a year to push marxist dogma. Far better to give it to those fighting fires at their own cost.
Posted by runner, Monday, 13 January 2020 1:04:13 PM
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Paul you just don't understand about the bush. Why would you as a city person.

Around here most small business operators would be lucky to net $50,000 a year.

One, our local volunteer fire warden & chief instructor of the rural fire brigade has a steel fabrication business, with some hire of agricultural machinery, contract slashing & plowing, & anything else that will bring in a few bob. He & his son run it, with a couple of full time employers, & the odd farmer called in for a few days when needed.

He was telling me the other day that most of his gear is up for sale, as he is giving up, & looking for a job. He & his son shared the profit of just $53,000 last year. Yes it was a bad year, with farmers short of a quid, but will next year be any better. HE & his son alternated on the fire front, with one at home working to pay the staff & bills.

Another truck body fabricator has given up, & taken a job as janitor at the high school. That lost 2 jobs.

A third, a cabinet maker is now working for a charity supporting the elderly stay in their homes. Another 2 jobs gone.

Another with a service station/corner store has to call in casual labour to replace him when he goes fire fighting. The cost of that labour from 6.00 AM to 9.00 PM is greater than his usual profit.

When things get tough during a drought, many business struggle, & some go to the wall. While some may be able to pay staff off fighting fires, & most would want to, for so many, it is just not possible.

Most call outs are for half a day, of perhaps a little more. They are often to car accidents, that are of short duration, but when they are on going for many days it stretches many to continue to pay staff, or themselves when they are the fire fighter.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 13 January 2020 1:10:14 PM
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What are you going on about Hassy! I AGREED WITH YOU! I said; "Not one to often agree with Hassy, but I do on this occasion."

Are you potty or dotty or both? No wonder I think you are an old fool. Even when I agree with you, you still come up with it.

"Paul you just don't understand about the bush. Why would you as a city person."

BTW I was born in the bush, on a sheep property near Wellington NSW.

You sir are a hobby farmer, only playing at rural life in your old age!

How about reading what I have posted, and then comment!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 January 2020 3:07:12 PM
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