Qassem Soleimani the butcher was killed in a drone strike in Baghdad after a couple of months of escalating attacks on Americans culminating in the death of an American contractor.

The positive aspects of this is that the Iranians learnt that the US could and would strike hard and that no one was protected.

The negative aspects are that this could escalate the conflict further to a possible full scale conflict, and the Iranians have already declared that they are going to continue on building a nuclear weapon.

However, given that the existing sanctions are already having a vastly destabilising effect, the vast cost of a nuclear program may bankrupt the regime, and open conflict would worsen things even further.

While this has clear risks for the US, the options are unpalatable for Iran too.

Thank goodness for drones; they provide the capability to pinpoint and take out a target with minimal risk to civilians.

Thank goodness for President Trump. He is the first US president to put the wind up Iran since Ronald Reagan.

An appropriate article title.

But ......

The Middle East (defined very broadly these days) is an incredibly unstable and diverse region, so maybe this could be its Archduke Ferdinand moment ?

Iran could now react in many ways either directly or through its many proxies, blocking the Straits of Hormuz, launching attacks on US bases and/or on Israel, even attacking US troops in central Afghanistan, distant assassinations.

Where will Turkey stand ? Russia ? China ? They could all interfere in/get sucked into an incredibly messy war, stretching from Libya and north Africa across to Afghanistan, from Kenya to the Turkish foothills.

Just saying .....

Joe

Wrong story Joe.

Next they should take out the threat making Ayatollah, & then the next Ayatollah if he makes threats.

If the yanks could build a liberty ship a day during WW11, as well as a couple of liberators & Mustangs, they shouldn't have much trouble making middle eastern skies dark with circling drones, just waiting for another fool to make him self a target by threatening.

Nothing like a bit of personal threat to make these noisy self appointed gods quieten down. Once they realise they are not personally immune from retaliation, the lions will become pussy cats.

the left believe in diplomacy except to those who disagree with them. The Middle Eastern World just laugh and use the left as useful idiots.

In the late 19th and early 20th Centuries they used gun boat diplomacy; today it's drone diplomacy.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Yuo really are unbelievable mate.

Here we have an absolute disaster of a president who even you cheered on as disengaging from the Middle East now doing a Clintonesque 'wag the dog' exercise because of looming impeachment in the Senate yet you are blindly, and without any scepticism whatsoever, blowing his trumpet. Have you no shame?

Well at least you are giving the normally impotent OLO cheer squad a chance for some stirring of the loins. Just look at Hasbeen;

“Next they should take out the threat making Ayatollah, & then the next Ayatollah if he makes threats.”

However certainly not as bad as your president's threats;

Quote

He said the US had “targeted 52 Iranian sites” and that some were “at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD”.
“The USA wants no more threats!” Trump said, adding that the 52 targets represented the 52 Americans who were held hostage in Iran for 444 days after being seized at the US embassy in Tehran in November 1979.

End quote

Targeting cultural sites was what ISIS did in blowing up the statutes to worldwide condemnation. It was rightly declared a war crime. Why of earth is this any different? And the whole 52 targets thing is crass symbolism designed to stir up his followers like runner and Hasbeen. Righteous rage spurring on his rabid defenders. It just makes me want to puke. What a sad lot of pinheads you all have become.

Qassem Soleimani was no worse than a Rumsfeld. Ordering killing and torturing with gay abandon. I defy anyone to spilt the difference.

Is this what you believe in Shadom Misister,
Invite someone to parlay and assassinate them?

Stop the world, I want to get off.

Armchair Critic says:” Is this what you believe in Shadom Misister,
Invite someone to parlay and assassinate them?
The world would be a better place,AC, if you could fulfil your wish of getting off it, AC,especially if you could take the subversive
and confused Reflux with you. You both attempt to misrepresent what sensible posters have said, by misrepresenting their statements and actions through stupid, baseless questions?
The garbled part of my post is the part copied and pasted from AC, so it doesn’t matter whether you can understand it, it is in its original form

Just imagine World politics & economics if the Leftists were at the wheel !
The word Disaster comes to mind !

SR,

Once again you have submitted a post that is so hyperbolic and idiotic that I can assume that you loathing of any thing connected to Trump overwhelms you reasoning abilities.

Firstly I deliberately did not mention Trump to separate the act from the politics, but clearly you cannot. That Trump is relishing the senate trial which is certain not only to exonerate him, but also castigate the house democrats is an incentive for Trump to avoid conflict.

Secondly, the act was not isolated, but rather a response to roughly a dozen attacks in the last couple of weeks organised by Soleimani against US forces in Iraq sent there to train Iraqis in the fight against ISIS, culminating in the death of a US non combatant.

Thirdly sites important to Iran and Iranian culture does not necessarily mean cultural icons, it is just your fevered imagination.

Fourthly comparing Soleimani to Rumsfeld is a joke: "Soleimani had enemies around the world, and his legacy is not merely the 608 American troops killed by improvised explosive devices in Iraq between 2003 and 2011. Soleimani financed, trained, armed, and commanded various militias and factions in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Yemen"

Finally, while Soleimani will be replaced, it is unlikely to be someone of his abilities, and this person will find his operations stunted by his need to hide.

Hey Leo Lane,

"The world would be a better place,AC, if you could fulfil your wish of getting off it"
I expect some would agree.
Though I'm pretty certain the world would be a better place if gullible idiots weren't cheering for WWIII.

misrepresent? You've lost me.
garbled? Still lost.

Baseless?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/qassem-soleimani-death-iran-baghdad-middle-east-iraq-saudi-arabia-a9272901.html

>>Adil Abdul-Mahdi was quite clear: “I was supposed to meet him in the morning the day he was killed, he came to deliver a message from Iran in response to the message we had delivered from the Saudis to Iran.”<<

http://www.forexlive.com/news/!/iraqi-pm-says-he-was-schedule-to-meet-with-soleimani-the-morning-he-was-killed-20200105

>>Iraqi parliament is starting the process of voting to expel the US military from the country. The PM says the milling of Soleimani and Muhandis was a political assassination and that permission was not sought by the Iraqi government.

"I was supposed to meet Soleimani at the morning the day he was killed, he came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran" the Iraqi PM said, highlighting that Soleimani was carrying a response from Iran to a Saudi initiative to diffuse tensions in the region. That came after Trump called the Iraqi PM and asked him to mediate.<<

Dear Shadow Minister,

You said;

“Firstly I deliberately did not mention Trump to separate the act from the politics, but clearly you cannot.”

What an utterly stupid statement. Trump is the bloody commander in chief, indeed in rank higher than the man he had murdered. Trump didn't separate the rocket attacks in Northern Iraq which killed an American contractor from Soleimani, instead directly targeting him.

Soleimani's death is just another escalation of Trump's actions against Iran after dismantling the deal stuck by Obama.

Trump said of Obama; “In order to get elected, Obama will start a war with Iran." The fact that this has been Trump's thinking for nearly a decade and we are now in an election year tells its own story.

Your president is utterly venal and like a cornered rat is willing to exploit any potential escape route he can, and you are here cheering him on.

The decision to kill Soleimani's was Trump's alone. He was given a range of options by Pentagon officials but chose this path much to the dismay of said officials.

That decision sees the Iraqis calling for US troops to leave their country. They viewed Solemani as a pivotal figure in stopping ISIS after the collapse of the Iraqi forces in the face of their onslaught. The Iraqi militias he helped create were instrumental in pushing them back and protecting the rest of the country.

Here is Chomsky's take; http://truthout.org/articles/noam-chomsky-us-is-a-rogue-state-and-suleimanis-assassination-confirms-it/

Soleimani's killing lays the charge of 'rogue state' firmly at the US and it is hard to consider its action as anything but, except of course to the ultra sycophantic like yourself.

World War 111? It is the availability of equipment like drones and the selective killing method they provide that will prevent world-wide slaughter. World wars are a thing of the past. The war we are now fighting all the time does not entail mass killing. Your average Iranian wouldn't give a damn about the creature just taken out. The few lunatics yelling 'death to America' have been yelling that ever since they got rid of the Shah. And, the mad mullahs have been reminded that they can easily be popped off, too, without wholesale death and injury to ordinary Iranians whose lives they have made a misery.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Regarding your limp excuse that “sites important to Iran and Iranian culture does not necessarily mean cultural icons, it is just your fevered imagination”.

Well it seems it was part of your president's fevered imagination too. It seems he has pulled away from such action given the uproar. There is bloody obvious to all but the most blinkered that he intended to take out cultural icons but for now the adults have prevailed. Even so he is making excuse for why he thought it ws a good idea in the first place. Your president is a child.

“WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump backed off a threat Tuesday to target Iranian cultural sites if Tehran retaliates for a drone strike that killed its top military general last week. 
During an Oval Office meeting with Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, Trump said the administration is "supposed to be very careful with [Iran's] cultural heritage." 

"And you know what, if that's what the law is, I like to obey the law," he said. "But think of it: They kill our people, they blow up our people, and then we have to be very gentle with their cultural institutions”.

Well what do you know.

SR & his like want us to keep rolling over, & over & over, until we finally get stabbed in our defenseless belly. Typical of the fools who won't defend themselves until too late.

Strong nations rise & grow stronger & dominate, by design or accident, but fail & fall as they grow soft & weak. WW11 would never have happened if the British & French had the guts of their earlier years, & had stopped Hitler as it became obvious he was dangerous.

The mad Ayatollah is no different. He & his mates don't want a nuclear bomb so they can be nice friendly fellows. It is a bit too late to wonder why we didn't take them out earlier when a dirty bomb goes off in Sydney or New York.

It is a big nasty world out there, & only those prepared to be just as nasty when necessary will survive. Pity so many free loading doves have to be carried along as useless ballast by the doers.

Nope, too much oil & gas resources tied up in Iran, Iraq & Syria for this to become anything more than a few old dogs peeing on telegraph poles, albeit with a bit better aim thanks to drone technology. The one bastard who seems to be perpetually kissed on his lower abdominal protuberance and the one most deserving of a drone visit (Al Assad) seems to be the puppet of Putin, Trump & Erdogan, treading a path so far immune from prosecution. I wonder when his day will come? So too I wonder when his usefulness will expire and the wrath of his God will descend. The wild card will be the Hezbollah crew, along with the last vestiges of Daesh, Al Qaida & the few Lone Wolves with a point to prove.

I hope that Iraq tells the US to leave.
The Iranians practise cousin marriage so there is not much point in
trying to negotiate with them. It is at the heart of their difficulties
with the Sunnis also. 1400 years later they still cannot agree on who
should have succeeded Mohammad.
Democracy requires a population with an average IQ around 100
otherwise voting will be eratic and subject to the likes of the Ayatollahs.
The rest of the world should retreat from the middle east and return
the middle east refugees back to their countries of origin.
If that does not happen the average IQ in western countries will fall
to about 70.
If you think that is no problem then why is the Middle East such a mess ?

Dear Bazz,

Are you really going to pollute this forum with that crap again?

Stop being utterly pathetic.

SR,

After all the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth by the left whingers, the Iranian regime opted for an elaborate fireworks display that deliberately did little more than scare the horses, and issued a statement essentially saying they'd finished and please don't hit us back.

The message has been received, and all the murderous zealots while praising their fallen hero and swearing revenge know that they could be next.

At least you have backed away from your puerile claims that this was an electoral stunt by Trump.

Hasbeen,

"it is a bit too late to wonder why we didn't take them out earlier when a dirty bomb goes off in Sydney or New York."

Hasbeen more of your gibberish, calling for mass murder, like you did on OLO when you called for the mass annihilation of 200 million innocent men, women and children in Pakistan with nuclear weapons.

When called out on that one you never apologised, and never responded.

Well Captain Biggles you should jump into your Sopwith Camel and fly off into the sunset, and do us all a favour.

Bazz,

Slightly off-topic, but Charles Darwin married his cousin. Cross-cousin marriages have been common in property-inheriting societies ever since the development of agriculture, i.e. in pretty much every society except hunter-gatherers. The Queen and Prince Phillip are related, after all, which might explain Prince Charles. Yes, even Darwin had problems with all that, losing some of his children very young.

Joe

Dear Shadow Minister,

That Trump is using this as a distraction is a given. Everyone accepts it so why do you struggle with it?

Soleimani was a loyal Iranian who served with distinction during the Iran/Iraq war. It was an incredibly debilitating conflict for Iran and Soleimani's efforts to extend Iranian influence to better buttress his country from such an event happening again is well known. His work with the Americans in Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban was highly regarded by them.

Why do you call him a snake?

Loudmouth2;
It was an accepted custom for centuries but it was mainly practised
by the wealthy classes. The farmers and labourers knew better and to
avoid the dangers they introduced yearly festivals in each town or
village and laid on entertainment for the young people so the boys
would meet girls from the other villages.
The IQ is of course an average, and there is always those with a
higher IQ that shine. The whole bell curve moves to the left with
cousin marriage being common place.
In Islamic communities there are a few groups, mainly young women, who
are actively opposed to cousin marriage and are refusing marriage
with cousins. They are being charged as being unIslamic by the Immans
but they are having some success in the Midlands in the UK.
These women do not want to have the burden of raising handicapped
children for the rest of their lives. For that is what it means.

To some the subject is unmentionable but it has to be faced.
It has real affects as they found in the area around Bankstown and
Lakemba in Sydney. I am not aware of the affect on special schools
in Sydney but in the UK it is a major problem for Midland schools.
Unfortunately, according to one article I read it will take hundreds
of years of no cousin marriage to repair their genome.

The rogue state of Iran has inflicted only minimal damage in Iraq, and no US or Iraqi personnel have been injured. President Trump says that no more of Iran's destructive behaviour - increased since Obama's huge cash handouts to them - will be tolerated.

The squint-eyed terrorist should have been put down like the mad dog he was long ago. Three cheers for Donald Trump. The US and the free world should be forever grateful to him.

Hmmm, looks like the attacks into Iraq have been a face saver for Iran
no damage done, so Trump can warn and do nothing.
Best outcome for all. The Iranian subsideries may react differently
but US could attack them with impunity as they have been denied by Iran.

Oh I see Steele singing the praises of Soleimani: "Soleimani was a loyal Iranian who served with distinction during the Iran/Iraq war. It was an incredibly debilitating conflict for Iran and Soleimani's efforts to extend Iranian influence to better buttress his country from such an event happening again is well known."

While degrading the actions of President Trump over Ukraine believing he should be charged as a criminal. We recognise where SR allegiance lies.

SR,

You originally claimed that Trump essentially concocted this exigency primarily to distract from the impeachment process which was a knee jerk indictment based on your opinions and contradicted by the timeline of the events on the ground.

That these events initiated by Iran were a distraction that benefited Trump is not deniable, however, the ones that tried to exploit it were the democrats, who are now beginning to look very stupid.

Qasem Soleimani never assisted in the overthrow of the taliban, but "in extending Iran's influence contributed vastly to Hezbollah and the hundreds of people killed in that conflict and the one with Israel, the murderous regime in Syria, the 1000s killed in Iraq, Yemen etc etc. The world is a vastly better place without him.

Hey Josephus,
"Oh I see Steele singing the praises of Soleimani"

I see all you lot beating the drums of WWIII in support of a terrorist nation, Israel and her religious wars.

You're all just bending over backwards to support the Zionists through your Jewish coloured bibles, blind to the fact your just helping them follow a plan to enslave the entire planet.

Don't you know that under Noahide law you can't worship Jesus Josephus?

Wesley Clark - US to Overthrow 7 Countries in 5 Years
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran
http://youtu.be/z8ityb0Ips4
"About 10 days after 911 I went to the Pentagon..."

http://911blogger.com/news/2007-07-28/1979-birth-year-international-terrorism

"The concept of a ‘‘war on terror’’ pre-dates 9-11 by 22 years. Its seeds were first planted in 1979 at the Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism (JCIT) organized by Benjamin Netanyahu (future Israeli Prime Minister). JCIT kicked off a campaign for a ‘‘war on terror’’ against ‘‘international terrorism’’. It featured: pre-emptive attacks on states that are alleged to support ‘‘terrorists;’’ an elaborate intelligence system apparatus; slashed civil liberties, particularly for Palestinians targeted as potential terrorists, including detention without charge, and torture; and propaganda to dehumanize ‘‘terrorists’’ in the eyes of the public. George H.W. Bush Sr. and (...) George Schultz, Reagan’s Secretary of State enthusiastically endorsed this concept. Bush Sr. gave a speech at JCIT advocating precisely the type of ‘‘war on terror’’ that his son implemented in 2001. But he acknowledged that such a policy would be highly unpopular"

- You all might be willing to blindly walk off a cliff but I wish you all wouldn't drag me along with you.
A lot of people on this forum need to learn what 'useful idiot' means.

Stupid idiot do-gooder Christians

Hey Armchair, who stuck a pin in you ?
You seem to have suddenly got upset by something.
Take a Bex and have a nice lie down. Grin !

"Qasem Soleimani never assisted in the overthrow of the taliban, but in extending Iran's influence contributed vastly to Hezbollah"

Keep up the Zionist talking points on Hezbollah

"Hezbollah is worse than ISIS..."

And that's why Israel was supporting ISIS in the war on Syria.
- Israel's aligned with the Saudi's and Hezbollah and Iran are their common enemies.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-07/world-war-3-qassem-soleimani-trump-us-and-iran/11841254
"It is a far more significant moment than the killing of bin Laden or IS leader Abu Bakhar al-Baghdadi."

More important than Bin Laden?

- Yes, because that's what all this 'War on Terror' garbage was ever really about.
'7 wars in 5 years' you stupid clowns.

You're all just supporting one crazy religious state, over another crazy religious state.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/245869
- Bunch of morons -

See that list of countries?
See where it started?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

Hey Bazz,

"Hey Armchair, who stuck a pin in you ?
You seem to have suddenly got upset by something.
Take a Bex and have a nice lie down. Grin !"

I've been occupied with some other things and haven't been keeping up with all the news;
- But I've noticed this thread seemed a little one-sided, so I thought I'd better help Steelie out and try to balance it out a bit.

Trump & Netanyahu Nearly Start WWIII with Iran Over Soleimani Slaying
http://youtu.be/uIStJT6m8Mk

The Jerusalem Conspiracy
http://youtu.be/syUSQEUpTTQ

THE Zl0NlST PEACE PROBLEM
http://youtu.be/tFuwnH6vruA

WW3, Iran, & the Two Moshiachs w/ Christopher Jon Bjerknes
http://youtu.be/HtOmWImPcDM

Is there anyone here who cares to debate the facts or are you all going to just ignore the elephant in the room?

There is no doubt Trump the warmonger is out to create a situation that justifies an American/Iran war. The forums jolly band of 'Usual Suspects' will applaud Trumps belligerency, as they always do in these situations.

I hold no brief for the Iranian religious fundo style of government , but I do not support violent regime change based on the fact "I don't like the regime". Such a notion is extremely dangerous.

Armchair & others;
I think I have said here before, Iran, the US, Saudi Arabia & Iraq
do not control the Hormuz straits.
Iran will beg for it to be open as it is the only way they can get
oil out to India and China their only customers.
Their exports are around 500,000 barrels a day at present and their
currency is falling.
Any further reduction will collapse their economy.
They probably think that any real attack on the US might cause Trump
to order the destruction of their oil terminal.
That would close Iran down for months or even a couple of years.
Trump doesn't want the Strait closed either, as the world wide fuel
shortage would bring everybody down on his head, he knows it.
You cannot remove 10M+ barrells a day off the market without a
world wide financial crash within a week.
So you see everyone has an interest in keeping it flowing.

hatred certainly blinds and gives a warped perpspective as shown by Armchair. So predictable. You have as much egg on your faceh as the rest of the lying liberal media. The problem is they know they are lying but you seem obsessed with your anti Israel hatred/conspiracy theories.

From a Middle Eastern Watcher, closer to the facts,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C888mSyD7s&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0nH4xPuZVttRRxepnn7BjxuSoDZE0rCcZJv0AynWsfHJeXww4p4bjuBbY

This loss of the Ukrainian aircraft complicates matters.
Iran will on one hand say it was not us. Otherwise they have to admit
that they should never have control of missiles. They are incompetent.

They so far have refused to hand over the boxes. A very suspicious delay.
I heard one report that I cannot verify that Iran has said that a
memory board inside the box is damaged, hmmmm.
That would be an admission they have opened the box. a NO NO !
An on the ground inspection of the sighted missile parts is necessary
by independent inspectors. The International inspectors should be on
the ground now. The delay is very suspicious.
Airlines normally fly up the Gulf. Until airlines become convinced
that the people controlling their missiles are competent they should
ban flying near Iran, Iraq and Syria as Iran has missile batteries in
all those countries

Armchair Critic,

Your vile anti semitic conspiracy theories deserve the same consideration as the crap I scrape off my shoes.

Bazz

Iran shooting down an airliner in its own airspace filled with its own citizens is a PR cock up for Iran that is even worse than it's faux attack on the US bases.

Qassem Soleimani in Iran was no hero, he was a monster supporting the leaders of the religion of PEACE. The definition of peace means murdering your enemies in and of Iran, so no one objects to your actions. Listen to the link I posted above.

Hey Josephus,

"The problem is they know they are lying but you seem obsessed with your anti Israel hatred/conspiracy theories."

FYI, I'm not obsessed with it, I don't lose a minutes sleep over it.
I've got more important things to do with my life.

It's just that my judgement isn't tainted by religion like you.
It's you lot that are so obsessed with Jesus return, you wish to blindly support the Zionists who will enslave the planet.

http://carm.org/what-are-the-noahide-laws

"Jesus cannot be worshipped since it is considered blasphemy"

Are you illiterate? Can you read?
Are you above a grade 4 reading level?
If not what's your excuse?

The problem is you dumb idiots know nothing about Judaism.
You think it's just the old testament, but it's not.
And they don't care about Christians, they hate you for what the Romans did 2000 years ago.
You're just a gentile, and in their planned Messianic Age you'll have to bow down to their rules.

Go to Israel, they'll spit on you.

http://youtu.be/rkbwUyycop8

Put you fingers back in your ears and say "Lalalalalalalalala- Im not listening"
- Fool -

Hy Shadow Minister,

Your vile anti semitic conspiracy theories deserve the same consideration as the crap I scrape off my shoes.

They're not theories.
There's more than enough evidence to substantiate the claims.

Hey Shadow Minister,

We'll your 'Anti-Australianism';
That is your blatent support for foreign interests and their religious wars over and above our national interests disgusts me so much more.
You should be ashamed of yourself.

Dear Shadow Minister,

You write;

“You originally claimed that Trump essentially concocted this exigency primarily to distract from the impeachment process which was a knee jerk indictment based on your opinions and contradicted by the timeline of the events on the ground.”

This is what the Wall Street Journal (a conservative Murdoch run paper) is reporting;

But "after the strike," Trump gave associates another explanation: "He was under pressure to deal with Gen. Soleimani from GOP senators he views as important supporters in his coming impeachment trial in the Senate,"

This bloke was looking out for himself whether it was a distraction or bowing down to the wishes of warmongering Senators he felt he needed support from at the impeachment.

Venal self interest is driving this clown and you are so deep into the cult you refuse to see it.

Hey Josephus,

"From a Middle Eastern Watcher, closer to the facts"
Just took a quick look.

I don't see Erica Kasraie as an impartial Iranian source.
Her family fled Iran in 1979 with the ousting of the Shah.
I see her as being more supportive of US and Jewish interests.

I see her as more of a government asset involved in the overthrow of the Iranian government in support of US and Israeli interests.

Not sure if she's Jewish, she might be a Christian-Zionist, aka 'useful idiot'.

Her YouTube Channel 'About' page.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_yckcKK1s2TUn7XXDlaSNw/about

"Erica and her family fled to Italy shortly after the 1979 Islamic Revolution."

Her Bio
http://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-kasraie-75839721

Interesting career right from the beginning, look at it.
As a 'Biologist' she was part of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC) FBI Laboratory

- It's this 'Jude Project' thing that looks out of place to me on her resume.
http://www.judeproject.org/
Why did she go there? (after she went to Israel)
Bio says 'Cultivate strategic relationships'

Google search 'Erica Kasraie Jewish'
Article: CIS historical trip to Israel, January and February 2012
http://wetheiranian.blogspot.com/2012/09/cis-historical-trip-to-israel-january.html

"Amir Fakhravar, Research Fellow at the Institute of world Politics and President of the Confederation of Iranian Students (CIS) and the Iranian Freedom Institute (IFI), along with Erica Kasraie, CIS spokesperson, were in Israel for a week on January and February 2012, speaking with Israeli high government officials, members of parliament and opinion makers."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/exiled-iranians-join-french-jews-on-visit-to-nazi-death-camps/
"Saghar Erica Kasraie is a member and spokesperson of the group."

http://uejf.org/iraniansinauschwitzeng/the-trip/feedbacks/

* She's certainly involved in regime change operations by use of civil society groups and organising student protesting.
This is certainly part of the regime-change script.

Next time you post something Josephus, make sure you know WHAT you're posting.
- I'll check it.

Maybe you should go check my links.

Yes Armchair Critic, I see you are a supporter of Hezbollah, screwing down against Iranian citizens desire for freedom of Islamic Shariah.
You need to be watched by National Security as your views support an outlawed terrorist group.

Dear Shadow Minister,

You wrote; “Qasem Soleimani never assisted in the overthrow of the taliban”

What a bald faced lie. Why do you do this? Why can't we debate the issue using facts rather than you blurting out garbage unsubstantiated by facts?

Even the Israeli newspapers like Haaretz acknowledges Soleimani's role in assisting the US in Afghanistan. For instance;

“when the U.S. invaded Afghanistan after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks, Iranian officials – on Soleimani’s orders – gave American representatives a map of Taliban bases to target in Afghanistan.”

Sure he was not above using Sunni Jihadists on occasion to achieve objectives just as the US did against the Soviets in Afghanistan, but Shiite Iran had little time for the Taliban and actively assisted the US even after Bush's ill-fated axis of evil comments.

For Pence to try and tie him to 9/11 was just ludicrous.

However Soleimani and the Iranians desperately wanted to get the US out of Iraq and it looks like it may well happen now given the assassination.

“Iraq's prime minister, Adel Abdul-Mahdi, told Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in a phone call Thursday to send a U.S. delegation to Iraq to negotiate the withdrawal of U.S troops, according to a statement released Friday by the Iraqi leader.”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/01/10/iraqi-pm-tells-mike-pompeo-decide-how-withdraw-troops/4429350002/

There now seems now to be no doubt at all that the Ukraine passenger plane was brought down by an Iranian missile, deliberately or accidentally.

Hey ttbn,
I haven't looked at reports but even if this is indeed the case;
Then there could still be a few explanations as to what happened.

If the plane was indeed hit by an Iranian missile for example;
Then it may have been deliberate, accidental or possibly even sabotage.
Their Pansir missile system (if that's what it was) might've been hacked by outside actors with sophisticated hacking tools with a backdoor into the Russian defense system for example or it might've occurred by the deliberate action of a rogue operator.
Things are so complicated these days.

"I see you are a supporter of Hezbollah, screwing down against Iranian citizens desire for freedom of Islamic Shariah.
You need to be watched by National Security as your views support an outlawed terrorist group."

What kind of twisted logic is it that because I don't support the (Pro-Israel) Neoconservative US foreign policy regime change goals, which themselves support Israeli foreign policy interests; (and of which are proven to be religious in nature;
and that I don't support any of this political correct / identity politics / hate speech /anti-semitic crap that you're all pedaling;

What kind of twisted logic is it that because I don't support all this Pro-Zionist CRAP,
- that I would automatically be aligned with some other equally undesireable CRAP?

I approach arguments on their own merits.

I don't support nations undermining and pillaging other countries.
Iran's got more than enough natural wealth on it's own that it doesn't need anything from others.
It's the others who are the aggressors, and it's all part of a strategic plan.

* Stop ignoring the elephant in the room *

Retired U.S. General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned, Seven Countries In Five Years
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran.
http://youtu.be/z8ityb0Ips4

SR,

You are really grasping at straws. Firstly there is the obvious chinese whispers problem, but even if true, what Trump said was that there was pressure from some republican senators to terminate the mass murderer. It was opined by the reporter that these senators were critical to the senate trial.

In either case the decision was based on a series of attacks on US bases culminating in the killing of 2 US citizens. The decision has proven to be the correct one, not only balancing the murder of 1000s but nipping in the bud a further escalation, and putting Iran on notice.

BBC NEWS: Iran admits accidentally shooting down Ukranian airliner.

tough one for Trudeau. Does he continue to support terrorism in his hatred of Trump or does he support the dead Canadians. The left are despicable.

By Giancarlo Sopo: "President Donald Trump expressed his solidarity with Iranian protestors calling for the resignation of Ayatollah Khamenei on Saturday.

As he often does, the president took to Twitter to circumvent the media and speak directly to the people. Only this time, he did so in Farsi, the official language in Iran—and broke a Twitter record in the process. As of the writing of this article, one of his tweets had earned over 300,000 "likes," making it the most "liked" Farsi tweet in history, according to the Washington Examiner.

The other Farsi tweet is at over 223,000 "likes."
Expert: Tweets are something the media 'will not report'
The president's tweets in support of the Iranian people was noticed by Saeed Ghasseminejad, a senior adviser and financial economist at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, who remarked the protests were, "A strong show of support by Iranians for Trump's Iran policy, something the MSM does not and will not report."

Hey ttbn,
See my comment above from a few days ago:

"Their Pansir missile system (if that's what it was) might've been hacked by outside actors with sophisticated hacking tools with a backdoor into the Russian defense system for example or it might've occurred by the deliberate action of a rogue operator."

Here's my news, haven't watched it yet.

Israel Provided The Intel To Kill Soleimani & A Cyberattack May Have Been Behind Iran's 737 Downing
http://youtu.be/wI6_ttmhSh0

You see, I can tell you what the news is without even being updated by my own news sources.
What's the bet this news is exactly as I said 4 days ago?