Paul,

Thanks for giving us an indication of where all this fraud is heading :) A separate State ? i.e. a sovereign entity ? Funded by how ? You know, you can only get so far by shoving a stick up someone's arse, which is what so much of all this is about.

Altrav,

Yes, there are tens of thousands of Indigenous university graduates, two-thirds women, overwhelmingly in mainstream courses and in the cities, where they are from, and where they will work.

As to the roughly accurate figures: the federal Education Department, dependent on universities' figures which are dependent on students' 'ticking the box', are (in my humble view) usually around 20-25 % an under-estimate of 'real' totals, while the ABS Census figures are about 25-30 % an over-estimate.

So, fairly crudely, matching up those estimates, I would suggest that there could be at least 45-47,000 Indigenous university graduates by the end of this year, and fifty thousand by the end of 2022.

Joe

Loudmouth, I have always respected and appreciated your views and comments.
At this point I must mention my utter commitment to the truth, as much as I possibly can.
In saying this, I must challenge you on a point of opinion.
I have always clarified and explained about blood line and ancestry, and how it IS, not how individuals would like it to be, case in point is Pascoe.
If you are going to accept that, as I do, Pascoe is a fraud, or a "wannabee", then we must accept that anyone who is not of "pure blood", cannot/must not be thought of as anything but a "cast" and therefore not, as in this case, a true "native" Australian.
I am slowly eluding to the point that anyone who does not have native parents, does absolutely not qualify to call themselves an aborigine, and to that end, are NOT eligible to call themselves or be considered or referred to as "indigenous".
So again I say, under any test or assessment of whether someone is aborigine, or indigenous, ALL these so called uni grads or students are NOT aborigine or true natives of Australia, unless we accept they are born here, which then makes them Aussie with "SOME" aboriginal blood in them, but they are definitely NOT aborigine, or indigenous, but like Pascoe, if he has any black fella blood at all, in him, at best he like the uni grads, are wannabees!
I reject the submission that, "if I feel I am aborigine, then I am aborigine".
That, unfortunately in this day and age where thieves and con-men have invaded and taken over the govt and created scenarios where they and their mates can milk the Aussie purse un-checked, and un-abated, is at the root of all these wannabees suddenly appearing en-masse, where once there were none to speak of.
It is not only insulting, but a lie, a fraud, to call yourself something you are clearly not.
Tens of thousands of uni grads you refer to, I'm sorry but, even "fact check" will out or debunk that one.

Altrav,

You assert that " ... If you are going to accept that, as I do, Pascoe is a fraud, or a "wannabee", then we must accept that anyone who is not of "pure blood", cannot/must not be thought of as anything but a "cast" and therefore not, as in this case, a true "native" Australian."

No, not at all. If a person has an Aboriginal mother (and no father in sight), then he/she will always, from the beginning, consider him/herself to be Aboriginal, without questioning it. If they also have siblings in the same position, then that assumption is multiplied. Cousins, even more so. Grand-parents, more so. Uncles and aunts, more so again.

That applies to very many Aboriginal people. Yes, it gets a bit tenuous when it's the Aboriginal parent who shoots through, particularly if it's the father, so that a child is raised -with the best of intentions about cultural education - by a non-Aboriginal parent. Even more so if that non-Aboriginal parent re-marries, and to another non-Aboriginal parent. So yes, identity can get very stretched out.

One implication of my assertion that the ABS Census figures for Indigenous graduates are 25-30 % over-estimated, is that that over-estimation applies to the whole population, in equal steps: so the 2016 Census Indigenous population estimate of 649,000 also has to be trimmed down: perhaps to 500,000.

This makes some sense, since the rise from the 2011 Census (101,000) was greater than the number of births in the mean-time(73,265) - somehow, recorded numbers in older age-groups also rose, whereas in the real world, they would have all fallen due to inevitable mortality. So this next Census, in August next year, will probably assert 750-800,000, while in reality it may be closer to 550,000. 2.3 % of the Australian total.

But

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But of course, that 2016 recorded number of births - 73,265) was itself inflated by perhaps 25 %- the more accurate number of births was more like fifty to fifty five thousand. Subtract the total number of deaths between Censuses, perhaps 30,000, and it's possible that the Indigenous population actually rose by only twenty to twenty five thousand between 2011 and 2016. Not 101,000.

But these days, it's more like 'pick a figure' and run with it. More numbers, more Bruces, equals more funding , of course :)

So how many Bruces are out there, on the books, attracting funds ?

Joe

ALTRAV, are you a member of the Aryan race? You seem to be very much in tune with the concept as it was popularised in the late 19th and first half of the 20th centuries.

Joe, "you (assuming me) can only get so far by shoving a stick up someone's arse" I believe that is what your website does. With its total referencing to the falsehoods of white honky aboriginal controllers and such like. Not one word from an actual aboriginal person, and no disclaimer! People like the young and naive could be deceived into believing that it is in someway a truthful account. When you and I both know it is no such thing.

Paul,

On my web-site: www.firstsources.info

I typed up what I could find in the SA State Records by way of written documents, fifteen thousand pages of it. I'll leave the task of evaluating and critically analysing it all to others, such as yourself. With the occasional summary of my own, which I think I've earnt the right to make, as much as anyone else.

Thanks for the plug :)

Joe