Accidental food plant growth via discarding seeds is a very long way from farming indeed !
Stop looking for an evidence that is non-existing !
Next we'll be told Kangaroos were farmers too !

Paul,

No, SR hasn't given me anything of the sort. He has simply asserted what he needed to demonstrate . As you do too :)

Let's get a bit real: apart from the tip of Cape York, and apart from piddly 'gardens' recorded by early observers who didn't seem to get the Message, where - now - is there Aboriginal farming which is a continuation of traditional farming ? Where are the remnants of forts from which groups protected their lands, like in NZ ? Where are the tools ? Where are the stories, songs, rituals ?

Seriously, although my experience is obviously confined to a small part of South Australia, I've never come across any evidence whatever that Aboriginal farming - the cultivation of large areas of land and harvesting the products of that land, which local people depended on from year to year - occurred in those areas that I am familiar with. Or even the slightest interest by the vast majority of Aboriginal people in growing anything.

Hunting and killing animAls, yes: i recall a kangaroo running into my car while i was driving out of a community one time - I told the most traditional man there, thinking of course (traditional life being all sweetness and love) that he would track it and heal it; yes, he tracked it, and killed it. Hunters do that, that's how it works.

Share-farming of Aboriginal land, yes, with neighbouring white farmers farming the land in exchange for a proportion of the proceeds when it is harvested. A.k.a. 'rent-seeking'.

Perhaps you may have better on-the-ground knowledge ?

Joe

Paul,

Is Pascoe telling the truth then about his Aboriginal ancestry?

Others, apart from Bolt, doubt it and Pascoe seems loath to defend his claims.

Why don't you put his detractors to shame and shew his genealogy?

Then we'd all have to shut up.

Paul,

On that last post, you would surely know that it would be pretty impossible for anyone to, say, claim to be Maori, once they come up against genuine Maori: within minutes they would either demonstrate family links, perhaps distant, perhaps by marriage, with any Maori person they met, or it would be clear that they had no Maori links whatever.

So it is here: in thirty years, Pascoe has been unable to establish links with any family. In fact, he doesn't seem to know enough to realise that that's how it works.

When we went to live in one community, within a day or so, the people there could locate my wife in the Grand Family Scheme of Things, as something like a third or fourth cousin of people in one family (Sansburys/Angies/Reids from southern Yorke Peninsula here in SA) , and something similar with another family (gr-gr-grandfather Wilson's and his 'brother''s grandkids). So it wasn't that difficult. In another community, her birth community, of course she was related to pretty much everybody one way or the other.

So why can't Pascoe ? If his gr-grandmother was indeed Aboriginal, she would have had relations, and they would have a multitude of descendants by now. A multitude ? Yes, indeed, my wife would have had more than a thousand people she was related to one way or the other, by birth and by marriage. Maybe a couple of thousand.

The rule is: if someone can't 'locate' their supposed Aboriginal ancestor, they are not in any way Aboriginal. End of. Pity that Pascoe doesn't know enough about Aboriginal culture to know that much.

So it is with so many, many charlatans in Indigenous affairs.

Joe

Dear loudmouth2,

I'm wondering if you support the stance of a fellow traveler?

"That's the difference between us SR. I never bothered to check the identities of these people because it doesn't matter. I go straight for the data to see how accurate it might be.

SR on the other hand has a two stage process. (1) do I like the data? if yes - then its true. if no go to (2) where we don't try to disprove the data but attack the messenger.

But the messenger doesn't change the data."

SR and others of similar views, enough!
The topic is asking if this clown is who he purports to be, BLACK.
Well clearly he is not.
As I have pointed out again and again, if there is ANY non black blood in someones lineage, they just cannot be or be called, black.
Just because he wants to benefit, somehow, by being seen as a black fella, absolutely does not allow him or qualify him to do so.
So to end this farce, and even farcical for that matter.
Let's move on.