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Why Is Religion So Divisive?
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Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 7:19:36 AM
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Foxy,
You are a perfect fit to your description of people who call others names. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 7:53:11 AM
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Individual,
"Non-Christian sources Josephus and Tacitus Non-Christian sources used to study and establish the historicity of Jesus include the c. first century Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus. These sources are compared to Christian sources, such as the Pauline letters and synoptic gospels, and are usually independent of each other; that is, the Jewish sources do not draw upon the Roman sources. Similarities and differences between these sources are used in the authentication process.[39][40][41][41][42] In Books 18 and 20 of Antiquities of the Jews, written around AD 93 to 94, Josephus twice refers to the biblical Jesus. The general scholarly view holds that the longer passage, known as the Testimonium Flavianum, most likely consists of an authentic nucleus that was subjected to later Christian interpolation or forgery.[43][44] On the other hand, Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman states that "few have doubted the genuineness" of the reference found in Antiquities 20, 9, 1 to "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James".[45][46][47][48] Tacitus, in his Annals (written c. AD 115), book 15, chapter 44,[49] describes Nero's scapegoating of the Christians following the Fire of Rome. He writes that founder of the sect was named Christus (the Christian title for Jesus); that he was executed under Pontius Pilate; and that the movement, initially checked, broke out again in Judea and even in Rome itself.[50] Some scholars question the historical value of the passage on various grounds." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus#Non-Christian_sources Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 8:06:32 AM
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More important than a discussion on religion started by an atheist who knows nothing about the subject, is the fact that, of 310,O00 new jobs created to June this year, only 64,000 were in the private sector. We are getting closer to a socialist state in which religion will be banned.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 8:22:40 AM
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To Belly.
You asked why so many gods that we invent. However in a topic of religion divisiveness, I have a counter question for ya. Why so much divisiveness towards religion by atheists? Since I can't speak for an atheist perspective, either from my own understanding or from being among other like minded atheists, then perhaps you can offer up an explaination. Why is it when religion is mentioned among an atheist audience there is so much bitterness, hate, and anger that would be the divisiveness directed towards the person of said religion? If an an atheists position is divisive, can you really blame it on religions? Or wouldn't atheist have to own up to the product of their own culture? Perhaps you can't speak from a atheist position in general such as different socialist or communist governments that have banned and oppressed religous practices. Those in that society would be better to give a response. So with that in mind, go with what you can. Why is atheism within Australia so divisiveness? Paul? Jayb? You guys can answer too if you can, Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 9:13:10 AM
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I have a complete works of Josephus. It a rather large volume Bigger than most Books. About 11" X 9" X 5", First edition, about 1918. If I remember correctly.
The translation does mention Jesus, which I find Strange because "Jesus" as a name didn't exist until the Nicene Conference. Christos did, as it is a translation of the Greek "Lord" in English. The translators would have translated his real name "Yeshua" as Jesus. I guess. Remembering that there is no "J" in Middle Eastern Languages or Latin. Don't you find it strange because Mary was given the strict Instructions from God to call the child "Emanuel" yet she called him "Yeshua." Fail. Ay. It's a very hard book to read, although it z rather large Book, the printing in in Telephone Book Script. It has a Blue Hard back Cover. Probably worth a few bob. It's Packed away at the moment as we are selling up here & moving. TTN: More important than a discussion on religion started by an atheist who knows nothing about the subject, Strange, I find most Atheist to know more about Religion than Religionists. That's why they're Atheists. NNS: Why is it when religion is mentioned among an atheist audience there is so much bitterness, hate, and anger Strange that. I usually find the opposite to be true & have been subjected to that vitriol, mostly by Southern Baptists. Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 9:38:39 AM
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Nah... I never get angry. Tried that once & people laughed at me, then I got angry. ;-) No. the Screamer just made me laugh.