To Foxy.

If God says it's no good, then regardless if we understand why or not, it's no good. In the Old Testament at least one place, there is the standard against active homosexuality. Men not to lay with other men (like they do with a woman), and women to not lay with other women (like would with a man). This includes those who want to be gay couples.

As for how the church treats homosexuals, my heart goes out to them. As far as I can tell they are truthful when they say they have no choice on being gay or being streight. And from what I've read it seems that often being gay is a product of enviornmental causes. Trauma and abuse as a kid, or even the rarer side of "turning gay" after a traumatic relationship or being raped as an adult.

In my opinion having compassion on a homosexual is the answer. The answer isn't accepting and welcoming active homosexual behavior.

Our PM & Treasurer are supposedly religious, just look at the divisions they cause in peoples' lives ! Particularly with Centrelink & Immigration.

Dear Foxy,

Your explanation of homosexuality does not seem to fit with what we know of it in ancient Greek societies.

Why should we distinguish between the motivations for homosexuality and heterosexuality? They are both driven by the same thing - sexuality. Which in itself is a basic determinant for the furtherance of life and the evolution of our species. Thus, homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality when considered within an evolutionary scheme, except that it's a bit of a dead end in gene distribution.

Care to back that up with a bit of evidence and a reference or two?
Is Mise,
sadly, no evidence will suffice there ! Surely, you're looking around you sometimes but do you see ?

Why so many Gods
Why has each claimed to be the only true one, can we count the very different ones we made and continue to make
If we got them all in the one room would it be full of love or hate
Surely we can not claim the millions who follow a different one are just wrong?
IZZY told us his God murdered fire victims, for no other reason than OTHERS had abortions or sex with their own sex
After we die is life sitting at the feet of God in rapture ok? no romp in the field with a nice young lady, God will not like it?
As we que on the other side meeting our loved ones again will we have time to meets mums mums mum and great great great grand mum?

During this debate someone assured me he was sure he would live again after death
So am I
In a long ago thread, long long ago, think it may have been called ghosts
We saw very long thread, in that I said I believe even know, something exists post this life
If someone wants to start a thread I will join in
See many [ME TOO] tell of being in the company of dead people
We read of near death that saw very solic Christians tell of seeing those they love, often however not again being a Christian after
Bush tales of soldiers killed in action appearing in their homes at that very time
I found many shared my thoughts in that long lasting thread maybe worth tossing it around some day