I'm sorry STEELEREDUX no solid case from me. Other than to say walk a mile in my shoe's, feel fear from not seeing your family, friends, children, nobody, at the hands some f...kin' rat armed with a weapon of some kind.

You're faced with this. An individual trying to kill you; what do you do; how should you respond; your force options; his weapon being a knife; (creed - 'you always take a gun to a knife fight') piece of wood; a gun; his 'state' - just hate or under the influence alcohol and/or drugs AND hate;...........and you have about 3 seconds to evaluate and decide, what level of force you need to use. And if you're night shift, you're tired and sluggish - you still have those same 3 seconds.

And finally, if you do clear leather, and shoot the offender - well generally speaking your career, and your life is over. To work again as a working detective, you'll forever become 'gunshy' Not because you've killed someone it's what the media will say. I've killed in Vietnam. That's bad enough, I'd hate to take a life when in the police force. The media, the Coroner, and your conscience. And FOXY'S pontificating about more training? What a foolish foolish woman?

o sung wu

you make so much sense. Our nation is stuffed with so many virtue signallers who have no idea who the true heroes of this nation are. We have the vegans destroying the agriculural industry, the rebellion thugs trying to shut down coal and activist who constantly undermine police who put their lives on the line for others. One hopes these are just noisy minorities however with the likes of the abc backing these haters and undermining everything decent about this nation it is concerning. Probably when we look at America there is a little hope. Many many blacks are resisting race politics and embracing Trump as he has opened up opportunites of a future without welfare for him. The swamp and politacal class hate it but he has remained defiant against the lying democrats and media. Hopefully their are more quite Australians than we hear,.

The sad part is that these virtue signallers care nothing about the 19 year old kid shot and even less about the policeman charges. They want to believe lies about the police as it gives them some sort of moral superiority. They are disgusting.

Foxy,

"Seriously though - it is just a question of training.
People should not have to be killed - no matter what."

What is your solution to the problem of a criminal firing at police?
Die in the line of duty, or shoot to kill?

Care to give us the benefit of your knowledge and experience?

Dear O Sung Wu,

Everyone is entitled to a little foolishness
once in a while.

My suggestions come from first hand contacts with senior
members of the both the Victorian and Los Angeles
police forces (I had a relative in the LAPD). As well
as what's currently in the media.

It's an opinion and not meant as criticism or to be
taken personally.

Is Mise,

If you want real personal experience talk to a senior
police officer. It works for me.

God knows RUNNER the emotional impact it leaves on a copper when he has to shoot someone?All the eyes are on him - the public; the media, the Coroner, his colleagues, his superiors; and even his own family "perhaps you could disarm him with your baton Dad"? You're so, so right about the noisy minorities and the PC brigade.

I'd hate to work in the outback unarmed? This bloke who had to be sent interstate for his own protection even before the Coroner has held his Inquest? Well, I'm buggered if I know. And to charge him with murder? When his off-sider had been stabbed with scissors or something. The main criminal proof for murder is 'criminal aforethought' how had he formed that intent, in this matter? You're spot on RUNNER. I've lost so much respect for FOXY over this, I really have. I thought she'd more pragmatic, then to say what she said, 'police need more training'

o sung wu

yeah I have many Indigeneous friends. I can tell you the biggest barrier to them getting on and succeeding is the activist who constantly pit family against family and black against white. Many of them are well paid and benefit from revising history and pushing the narrative that whites 'stole' their land. This poor copper won't get a fair trial and it defies belief how they could charge him with murder. Then again with gutless politicians scared off being labelled 'racist' it probably does not defy belief. That Jussie Smollet character was cheered by the leftist media after making up a race crime. They quickly dropped the story with little to no apology. You could be sure if it was a white he would be locked up for a long time and the abc would make a 'documentary' on it. Every copper who works in those communities deserve praise. Imagine the chaos if they were not there. The child molestation, the women beatings and child neglect would be much worse. The left have shown over the last 50 years they could not care less about the INdigeneous but are happy to virtue signal like on every other issue.