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Climate Emergency

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Max Green, so your science is based in computer fictional projections rather than the science of actual fact.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 12 December 2019 8:09:37 PM
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What on earth are you talking about? You prefer your own anecdotes over the REAL data, long term temperature records all over the world's by experts who know what they're doing?

The world's top temperature databases all confirm the warming trend for the last 150 years or so.

NASA's GISTEMP tracks the increases in temperature.
http://tinyurl.com/y3js28tc
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/

The World Meteorological Organisation confirms that the last 20 or so years have all been in the hottest on record.
http://tinyurl.com/yxdadu8r

The UK's Met Office also confirm the last century of temperatures keep rising, and the last few decades are the hottest on record and we keep breaking records.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2018/2019-global-temperature-forecast
NOAA also confirm it. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/
Other evidence from the natural world confirms warming:-
Why are the cooler seasons late and spring arriving earlier and earlier?
Why are the glaciers retreating up mountains?
Why is the *multi-year* thick ice retreating at the Arctic and Antarctica?

I'll tell you. 4 Hiroshima bombs per second equivalent extra heat from our CO2 going from 280ppm pre-industrial revolution to over 400ppm now, by known physics and a little math.

Oh, and after all this, THEN we get into the computer models that try and predict where it's all going AFTER this. Got it?
Posted by Max Green, Thursday, 12 December 2019 8:19:07 PM
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Max, I prefer after 80 years of living on this Planet to read the local climate and how it affect me. Where you live might be hotter so the mean between us could be somewhere near normal.

For the record Sydney's hottest ever recorded December day was 42.2C in 1957, Sydney hottest day this month was 34.4C and average recorded history for December in Sydney is 25.2C and this year 26.6C. So we are to believe the Earth is getting hotter, 7.8C max cooler than in 1057 and 1.4C hotter this month than the average for the records of this month in Sydney which is twice the size and height and pollution of 1957.


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Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 12 December 2019 8:50:02 PM
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So what you're saying is you're old, and prefer your own myths and stories to actually changing your mind and accepting the empirical method.

The empirical method presumes the faultiness in human thinking, our prejudices and biases and sometimes downright frazzled thinking. So it's a bunch of procedures that try to eliminate all that with data samples, instruments, notes, cross checking, double blind tests, physics experiments, the lot. But you already "know" the real world — it's in your mind. You're old, and want to have your say and nag people. Got it! ;-)

You're also wrong about Sydney's hottest day.
http://www.theguardian.com/weather/2018/jan/07/sydney-records-hottest-day-as-temperatures-reach-47c-in-penrith

And you're wrong on everything you say about climate change, because you prefer you, while I prefer science. So please, go away. You're embarrassing yourself.
Posted by Max Green, Thursday, 12 December 2019 9:07:57 PM
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Do you hear yourself Green? The snark and open rudeness isn't helping your case. Nor is the abundance of ignoring the data that another person has. Life experience and antidotes are data points. As is data from industries like fishermen.

Look at a comparison between your comments to Josephes, and his comments towards you. No doubt they disagree with eachother, but Josephese was at least respectful where as you are more then ready to run people off. "You can leave more" and psycho-analyse someone's age shows your own age. Unfortunately it shows it to be about twelve years old. Be better then that. No one is attacking you by disagreeing with your conclusions. But you are attacking anyone who disagrees with your conclusion.

Seriously dude, calm your ass down.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 13 December 2019 2:16:26 AM
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Just can not get a reading on you Josephus , you are I remember a Christian or follower at least
But you throw science out the window as first action in this debate
See while NNS has a point about method of delivery Max Green uses science, and you defame science
My constant reminder, time is very much on the side of those who believe in man made climate change you seem to truly think more than half the world has been conned
NNS you like a conspiracy, test me, google the tobacco industry's fight against solid evidence THEY KNEW SMOKING KILLS ask why they did that?
Then if even for a second ask is it possible even probable fossil fuel is behind the fake assault on science?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 13 December 2019 6:00:08 AM
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