Issy, of course you will be in favour of banning firearms for the same reason. Bullets gases etc etc. Glad we have agreement at last on that issue.

Hi MR OPINION,

The BBC World News even reported concerns about Chinese manufacturing releasing various ozone depleting gases, but it does not seem to be that big a deal yet. International pressure will build if their manufacturing techniques do not clean up on CFC's, as that's a more immediate measurable radiation increase and health impact than the more abstract, 'loaded dice' aspect of climate change. The world has banned CFC's before and industries adapted to post-CFC propellants quite easily, and so I think China will eventually follow the example rather than risk yet more trade wars etc.
For now, there does not appear to be a lot to worry about with headlines like these!
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2019/2019-ozone-hole-is-the-smallest-on-record-since-its-discovery

I am also not that concerned about many Chinese immigrants coming to Australia. They tend to be hard working, have a great sense of family and food, and are mostly happy to accommodate to Australian laws while also enjoying their own flock in mini "China Towns" around the world. The recent spy-in-parliament fiasco needs thorough investigation, but we can't take that out on the average Chinese Australian citizen.

China could change dramatically in the coming years. The Christian church is growing rapidly there, and the government keeps cracking down on it which tends to make it go underground and grow faster! While the west is historically a bit jaded about the church due to various child-abuse scandals, historically it has been an enormous force for social progress and human rights, understanding all human beings have the potential to be selfish and corrupted by power - yet all also have value and require protection under the law. We will see how this plays out.

Mr O the world, most of it knows about that hole and took action
Nevertheless some who did that would not have if it was down to fossil fuels

"Is Mise,
grow up. When you are ready to discuss something like an adult, I'm all ears."

OK, Max, let's discuss the unnecessary terror that all the local dogs and cats go through because of the fireworks, then we can discuss the effect on the birdlife etc.

Paul,

Most bullets fired on ranges are recycled and the rest quickly become inert because of the action of rain and sun.
The gasses pose no threat whatsoever.

IS MISE,
are you really serious about suggesting we ban fireworks because a few dogs might get a little nervous for 15 minutes, when you're sceptical about the radiative forcing of CO2 that will impact life on this planet for tens of thousands of years? Paleoclimatologists have calculated that we've ALREADY cancelled the next ice age due in 50,000 years!

Yeah, fireworks can really compare. No really! ;-)

Hi Max Green,

It's Good News Week! I just got one of the denialists principal characters Bazz to admit that they reject AGW simply because they do not want to spend money fixing the problem. It's nothing to do with the science or what's right or wrong it's simply about them being greedy and selfish.

Their use of science to prop up their denial of AGW is just a subterfuge. They try to use science to mask their motive for self-interest. Fact is none of them are scientists and I doubt they even know what science actually is. They are just BS artists whose only concern is how big their bank balances are.

So don't waste your time talking about science with them. They have no science; all they have in life is their money.