Belly,

"Greens do not hold any power over the NSW Government, can not be behind silly council tree preservation laws"

Then who is?

Issy, its the Shooters and Hooters! Shooters with their fire sticks, and Hooters with their exhaust sparks!

BTW Another Egg-On-Face Award is coming your way.

Max I just let the scientist talk! Listen to the UTube clip and debate his science.
1. Former Greenpeace leader Roger Moore "The shortage of Carbon"
2. CO2 is unseen the basis of all life on Earth and currently 30/1,000,000 above death of all plants. For Green House plant health CO2 should be 1,000/1,000,000.
3. Natural gas is cleaner than coal burning, and coal can be changed to liquid fuel, and is currently done.
4. Carbon the basis of all energy. It cannot be increased or decreased.
5. Oil has given us a healthier and longer life span.
6. The agenda is a religious cult has formed to return us to hunter gatherers. That humans are the enemy of the Earth. Leonardo DiCaprio is a hypocrite with his lavish lifestyle with large yacht and private Jet consuming huge amount of fossil fuel.

Dear Josephus,

Are you confined to the mental health unit or are you free to step out for a few hours during the day to visit others with your worldview, like mhaze, Bazz, Loudmouth, Hasbeen, individual, etc?

Hi Josephus,
You've got to get out of the denier echo chamber and read some real science! How plants respond to CO2 completely bypasses the KNOWN RADIATIVE FORCING of CO2. You've ignored my previous post, so why should I respond to yours? But I'll try anyway, just to show you how engaging in a conversation with others is done!

Some plants may respond well to higher CO2. Some don't! But first remember the RADIATIVE FORCING = extra heat will hit food production with various rainfall shifts. Every extra degree of temperature allows the atmosphere to carry 5% more moisture. That means increased evaporation and drought in drying areas, and increased precipitation in dumping areas. It means increased famines and floods. The net effect? About a quarter less grain grown right as the population hits 9 or 10 billion!

Also, just saying “CO2 = plant food, therefore more plant food will be good for them and force them to grow bigger” is about as sensible as saying “Pizza is human food, therefore more Pizza will be good for them and FORCE them to grow bigger!” We might in truth get bigger. But the trite summary above ignores diabetes, heart disease, circulatory problems and ... death. Some important crops and grazing pastures get their self-defence toxins unbalanced. Some produce too little and become vulnerable to bug attacks.
http://climatecrocks.com/2010/12/08/the-co2-is-good-for-plants-crock-turns-out-not-so-much/
Some produce too much making them inedible to us or livestock.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2010/2943500.htm

Did you know this? Did your denier hero talk about any of this? The "Carbon shortage" claim is just ridiculous. Look up how long the planet has got by on 250ppm! Tell us all the last time it was 400ppm!

"It cannot be increased or decreased" is also ridiculous. Is your denier hero really delusional enough to say fossil fuels will NEVER run out? Google peak fossil fuels. Get to understand Hubbert's peak. We will run out one day, after we've cooked ourselves to do it.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/huge-tesla-battery-in-south-australia-primed-for-big-upgrade-20191119-p53byo.html
State and Federal Liberal governments support battery storage upgrade
More evedence renewables have a force of their own and continue to grow
If not the greens who, a question put to me,tree huggers are not all greens, some truly think they can change the *environmental history * of our country
They in doing that bring about fire storms climate change brings them about in extremely dry summers or winters