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Should Australians Celebrate Cook's Landing?

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Find it hard to speak about the side track the Korean war is
Not sure we saw our troops throw bombs at children but every war is bad
My front yard, bit like me, is a bit crazy, see I fly the southern cross the boxing roo, and Australian army lest we forget
All with pride
Now yes support our troops forever
Do however remember a COMMUNIST Australian journalist [true filth] who verbally fought against us and help brainwash and torture our POWs
Wilfred Burchett?
See? this leftist marxist hates true communists too
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 7 November 2019 5:57:07 AM
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Is Mise,

Don't ask someone to do something you're not
willing to hear.

On page 32 - you talk about my -
"frequently demonstrated skill of finding references"

And -
on page 45 - I suddenly don't have the
"wherewithal?"

I provided references. You didn't want the information.
Yet you continued baiting.

Little people it seems - need to belittle.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 November 2019 9:03:32 AM
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Hi Belly,

Someone earlier on posted that 'the enemy' were the ones who only commit war crimes, naming Muslims and Arabs or some such people, I can't be bothered finding the actual post. I simply made the point to that earlier poster, with my pacifist views, that our side/all sides do terrible things in war. As I said "war makes good people do bad things", and I stand by that opinion. Of course old Issy has to chime in with his not so in Korea, where he was a combatant. Not one to shy away I come back with the line "Australian soldiers threw bombs at children in Korea." I could have said the Boar War, WWI, WWII, Vietnam etc, it don't much matter. Throw, drop, fire, shoot, lob, don't much care about the terminology, call it unintended collateral damage, as some do, or call it an intended act of murder, the result is the same. I don't much matter if its you, or your mate, or one of you allies doing it, all are culpable, even if you didn't actually do the killing yourself. Then Issy wants to demand evidence, like he's running a court, and he's the Chief Justice. Am I demanding evidence of his alleged chocolate throwing or his alleged Greens are liars claim, no.

Just on Korea 1.6 million noncombatants died in that terrible war, something that can not, and should not, be expunged from history.
I will make those kind of statements when I like, and as often as I like, facts are facts, even though some like to sanitise history to suit themselves.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 7 November 2019 9:18:46 AM
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Just on Wilfred Burchett,

Burchett achieved a major scoop by interviewing the most senior United Nations POW (Korean War), US General William F. Dean, previously believed dead. In his autobiography Dean entitled a chapter "My Friend Wilfred Burchett" and wrote "I like Burchett and am grateful to him". He expressed thanks for Burchett's "special kindness" in improving his conditions, communicating with his family, and giving him an "accurate" briefing on the state of the war.

In his study of war correspondents, The First Casualty, Phillip Knightley wrote that "in Korea, the truth was that Burchett and Winnington were a better source of news than the UN information officers, and if the allied reporters did not see them they risked being beaten on stories"

Only know of Burchett from what I have read, some good, some bad, depends what side of the fence you are sitting on.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 7 November 2019 9:30:42 AM
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Foxy,

I didn't ask for your help, got it?

"Paul has failed to substantiate that ludicrous claim, perhaps you, ...with your frequently demonstrated skill at finding references,... might help him to back up or shut up"

If the above sarcasm went over your head then so be it.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 7 November 2019 9:42:31 AM
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Is Mise,

A bit of advice.

Keep your head high
And your middle-finger higher.

Don't take yourself so seriously,
No one else does.

Dear Belly,

The futility of war is
well documented. Questions about the behavior, abuses, and accountability are rarely answered. What nation or what politician wants to delve into those issues? However, paying attention in a
democracy to abuses is a moral obligation. It's also a
way to avoid repeating immoral mistakes.

I won't provide any more links. For me this discussion
has now well and truly run its course.

See you on another discussion.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 November 2019 10:08:04 AM
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