Is Mise,

No. I did not invite myself into the argument.

You did that on page 32 where you posted that
Paul has failed to substantiate his claim -
(he called Australian soldiers in Korea murderers
who threw bombs at children). You then asked me -

"perhaps you with your frequently demonstrated skill
at finding references might help him to back up or
shut up."

I took your request seriously and in good faith I
referred you to an article on the topic in The
Weekend Australian, "Australian and British soldiers
have been accussed of committing war crimes during
Korean War."

This for you was not "substantive." You again asked
for something more "substantive." Again I obliged
with referring you to the book - "Scorched Earth:
Black Snow," by Andrew Salmon - giving accounts by
veterans of the Korean conflict.

You again, made the diversion and a big deal out of the
fact that I had not read the book. Yet you were the one
supposedly seeking the information about the conflict.
Not me. I was simply supplying you with references to
information as you had asked. I was not under any
obligation to read the material. That was your job.

Anyway I referred you to places where you could get further
help - and access to information. Nothing suited you.
Which makes me realise that you were only seeking to
muddy the waters.

And to make matters worse you felt obligated to try to
insult me as well.

You've lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned.

Shadow Minister,

War occurs as a result of a political decision - usually
a decision by older men that younger men should fight
for what the older men believe to be worth fighting
for.

There can be no war unless the leaders of at least two
societies with conflicting interests decide that they
prefer war to any alternative means of settling their
differences.

The soldiers themselves go to war - frequently not
knowing what they are fighting for, and usually terrified
of meeting the enemy in battle - because
a legitimate political authority is
determined on that course of action.

War is actually a highly structured social activity. It
cannot be sustained without a strong political authority that
can persuade people to risk their lives for a purpose beyond
themselves.

Many factors may influence the decision to go to war - the
personalities of the leaders, the influence of nationalist,
religious, or other ideologies, the extent of popular
support for war; the anticipated economic gains or losses, the
ambitions or advice of the military; perceptions or
misperceptions of the other side's motives and intentions;
the expected reaction of the international community;
and of course, expectations about the likely outcome of the
conflict.

But one factor that seems particularly likely to encourage war
is preparations for it. A military build-up by country.

cont'd ...

cont'd ...

Shadow Minister,

All over the world, hundreds of thousands of
scientists and engineers devote their skills
to planning
new and more efficient ways for humans to kill one
another; millions of workers labour to manufacture
instruments of death; and tens of millions of soldiers
train for combat - and some of them actually go to war.

From a moral and even an economic point of view, this vast
investment of human ingenuity and energy seems a tragic
waste.

Shadow Minister,

You need to look up the dictionary meaning of MAJORITY and ALL there is a difference.

"According to Paul all national leaders are warmongers, all soldiers are murderers and hunter gatherers with an expected lifespan of 30 were superior to western culture."

To quote that great political philosopher Groucho Marx; You Sir are an unmitigated liar! When did I say any of that?

Issy, can you please supply evidence of chocolate throwing in Korea by Australian soldiers?

Is Mise,

Yeah, I've got a question for you as well.

Have your got evidence to disprove what Paul is
saying? Please supply it or put up and shut up.

Foxy,

"Foxy, You said,
"Dear Paul,

Any person calling others names shows that they are probably
having lousy manners, a lousy upbringing, and a
bad temper, and are a disrespectful person"

Does this also apply to a person who called Australian soldiers in Korea murderers who threw bombs at children?

Paul has failed to substantiate that ludicrous claim, perhaps you, with your frequently demonstrated skill at finding references, might help him to back up or shut up."

That's the full quote.

Can I prove that Australian soldiers didn't throw bombs at children?
No, I can't but then I'm not the one making the assertion that they did, but I was there and I never heard of any malpractices against children.