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Should Australians Celebrate Cook's Landing?

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Is Mise,

" Scorched Earth, Black Snow," by Andrew Salmon.

The book is about Britain and Australia in the
Korean War 1950. It gives accounts by veterans
of the conflict.

It was mentioned in "The Weekend Australian"article that
I referred you to earlier.

This is an excellent book and is as substantive as it gets.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 28 October 2019 5:37:50 PM
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In every case where cultures clash there has almost, without doubt, been "casualties of war". If you believe in intelligent life out there somewhere in the cosmos, then possibly into the future we will see either us (Hoomans) or them (aliens) coming unstuck to some degree. The victors in most cases get to write or re-write history. How pathetic it is to see the removal and destruction of historic statues and landmarks in the US with the Civil War, the Kiwi's with Captain Cook and sure as little eggs don't bounce we'll see it happening here in Oz before too much longer...sad, all too sad. Let's deny our history because it is expedient and moreover, 'politically correct' to do so. Today, 178 years ago, 21 Nyungar soldiers were killed by Governor James Stirling's troops at Pinjarra, just south of Perth. As a former soldier who has aboriginal heritage (Dharruk) I say: "Lest We Forget". But let us not forget also that in Merrie Olde England, the Landlords shot, stabbed, burned down the houses of and carried out a bit of rape & pillage on my Scots ancestors as well as some dispossession of lands while they were at it. Do I hear the Queen apologising - saying "Sorry"... Silence is the stern reply! Should I start ranting about statues of Queen Victoria needing to be turned into scrap metal, should the bricks of Government House on Macquarie St Sydney be turned to rubble? Of course let's do it ! The Clearances happened over a lot longer timeframe and claimed considerably more lives. Let's then take every vestige of what is our history and put up some bark humpys to replace them...what a joke and how preposterous the whole scenario.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Monday, 28 October 2019 7:46:06 PM
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Foxy,

"Any person calling others names shows that they are probably
having lousy manners, a lousy upbringing, and a
bad temper, and are a disrespectful person.

All in all properties that do not speak well of them.

They're really talking MUCH more about themselves than
about anyone else."

Does the above not apply to Paul, who called Australian soldiers murderers who threw bombs at children?
Something which he cannot substantiate.

Perhaps you have made an error of judgement?

Perhaps you know of some such instance.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 28 October 2019 7:49:50 PM
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Paul,

Doing the Green Wriggle again?

You can't back up your ludicrous claim and I admitted to throwing chocolates and tinned rations to children.

You do fit Foxy's criteria for a namecalling gutless wonder.

Tell her a bit of a flat excuse for humour and she might back you up even further.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 28 October 2019 8:32:53 PM
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Issy, you just keep getting it wrong. Being descriptive about the actions of soldiers in war is not calling them names. A name calling for example would be to say So N' So is a baboon, when obviously a human being cannot be a baboon, although that could be insulting to baboons. War, and the consequences of war, for some is a very distasteful subject.

Accounts put the civilian death toll in the Korean War at 1.6 million, many were children, an inescapable fact. How do you justify the murder of 1.6 million non combatants in a war you participated in. Some might dismiss it simply as unfortunate collateral damage, I am willing to accept any reasonable explanation.

"July 1950 - In the first month of the war, US soldiers kill significant numbers of Korean civilians under a bridge, near a village called No Gun Ri. It is unclear whether the soldiers were ordered to kill civilians or acted on their own."
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 28 October 2019 8:33:34 PM
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Paul,

You said Australian soldiers threw bombs at children, you obviously cannot substantiate this accusation, so as you can't put up then at least shut up.

Perhaps your admiring acolyte might come to the rescue.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 28 October 2019 9:07:27 PM
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