Dear Bazz,

Is that a promise or a threat?

People like you and Loudmouth get caught out and the first thing you do is shout TROLL! and run away from the issue.

You make a statement and then cannot support it. Your sorts of arguments belong in the pub on a Friday night.

Loudmouth is telling us that we are descended form homo sapiens neanderthalensis and when it's pointed out that he made an enormous blunder he clams up. I also asked him to explain his premise that educating a woman results in decreased population growth and he clammed up. These are not the signs of an educated man. A phoney maybe. He didn't even know who Foucault was, which is something I expect every Arts grad to know.

You have my full attention.
Mr Opinion,
read the letter by Dr Hass, it's self explanatory !

Birth control isn't the only way to control the population growth. That said population growth arguments feel shallow if birth control and family restriction policies are supported by the same people who are opposed to tighter immigration control. At that point it's not population control but population replacement.

I'm very much against population control. The core concepts either range in mass scale abortions, government control for familly planning, or open genoside to one population deemed the scapegoat. If a population control method comes around that isn't one of these three horrific acts, then maybe we can revisit population control arguments. Ideas like reevaluate sexual tease marketing, and acceptance of loose pants in general.

A real focus on cultural standards in healthy relationships will cut down many issues that population control is given as a solution. Then the population itself will be better at managing itself. Have that as a cultural moral issue, then our focus can be on making society stable, and harnessing opportunities for the population. Do this then immigration won't be an issue between bleeding hearts welcoming people, and lack of jobs in industries calling for tighter immigration. Instead you'll have a stable society with both opportunity for those who immigrate or are born there, as well as a culture that self manages itself by having stable and reliable families and standards for men and women to live up to in relationships.

Political, religious, and other ideological
influences affect social attitudes concerning
population limitation. Many religions emphasize
some version of the Judeo-Christian injunction to
"be fruitful and multiply."

An old Arab proverb declares that : to have many
children is to be blessed by Allah," and Islamic
religion in several countries is opposed to birth
control.

The Catholic Church, which is particularly influential
in South America - where very high birth rates and grinding
poverty are prevalent almost everywhere - has always
opposed the use of contraceptives.

To complicate matters further, some governments regard
high birth rates as essential for their nations' economic
or political strength.

Orthodox Marxists, have long held that there is no
population problem; there is merely a problem of
exploitation of poor people and poor countries by rich
people and rich countries.

China, in fact adopted a strongly pronatalist policy for
decades after the communist revolution and ended up with
more than 1 billion mouths to feed and the strongest
antinatalist policy in the world.

Ideological shifts on population control can make strange
bedfellows. Less developed nations have argued that economic
development would solve population problems - the US has
argued that "population growth is a neutral phenomenon" and
whose problems can be solved by capitalism.

The reason for the US was domestic politics and not
demography. The Reagan administration wanted to appease the
powerful right-to-life movement which is hostile to
population control because in some countries it may involve
abortion.

Belly,

To claim that the whites treated the blacks cruelly is an unfounded sweeping statement. While their rights were curtailed, and they were treated paternalistically, the vast majority had access to some land, limited but free schooling and health care, and virtually no one starved. While there were some abuses they were very much in the minority.

Compared to the government now, the indigenous population is far worse off and treated far more cruelly.

Shadow Minister not sure how you can ignore that truth, yes whites took over the country and yes changed forever the way they lived
Not sure either how I got involved in Joes racism is what done it thing
Pre white men in Africa its people grew food and fed far smaller population
After the whites, like it or not turned them in to slaves, or near it, they grew in numbers and not longer had the land to grow enough food
Long ago lost by most, those food growing skills no long exist, or can grow enough for the increased population in the current climate
Population, should, even must, be color blind, no one color or race can be targeted
We westerners are hooked, or our leaders are ,on constant growth more consumers more profit
Some [that American standing rock thing] call for far worse than birth control to reduce numbers
Birth control is no going to work without education and that is not for sure
Actions to lift the standard of living for every color every race even faith is a start education must follow
And yes maybe as a last resort control may get a new meaning