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Parts of the world are over populated

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Joe,

The problem is people facing chronic hunger.
Take a look on the www - at what many Africans
face today -

Poverty, drought, conflict, environmental degradation
due to over grazing, deforestation and other types
of environmental damages.

Check out Google.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:55:44 AM
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Somebody mentioned food production: since 1970, world food production has doubled:

https://www.who.int/nutrition/topics/3_foodconsumption/en/index6.html

World-wide consumption of vegetable products (including cereals) has slowed as incomes improve and people switch to meat.

But how to keep food production increasing, if only to improve the amount of food consumed per capita ? The continuing increase in production of vegetable crops will be necessary, both to feed humans and to feed the animals that we consume as well. So how to improve strains of food crops on the one hand, and increase the area of cropping and growing land on the other ?

Equatorial areas are fortunate in that they often produce two crops each year already. But it's the world's colder regions which need attention.

Bodies like the CSIRO are doing a good job with the first task of improving food strains. Increasing the area under production may be more long-term. Vast areas of the northern hemisphere, across Europe and Asia and North America would be far more productive if only there was a way to extend the growing areas northwards, and lengthen the growing season to allow more areas to be opened up. How to do that ?

Perhaps if only we could find some way to increase world temperatures across that vast region, perhaps by one or two degrees Celsius, millions of hectares could be made available for food production in areas that are currently too cold, or their growing season too short. So the big problem is how to increase temperatures there.

And of course, vast areas of much more lush country could be carefully opened up in Africa, with widespread irrigation schemes on the biggest rivers in the world.

Any ideas ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:27:21 AM
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Misopinionated,

Here's an easy-to-read summary:

https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate

Let me know if you have trouble understanding it, I'll find other files for you . :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 29 September 2019 11:53:42 AM
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Dear Loudmouth,

Shoving a citation in front of someone's face is not the action of an educated person. You have now shown yourself to be an educated person so you should be capable of providing a succinct answer to my question in your own words.

So again I ask: Can you please explain to me how it works?
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 29 September 2019 12:19:18 PM
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Stand by my view world politic is changing because of over population
Hope better government, while it may be forced on some is not dictatorship
Africa has big problems drought and famine in part because of very poor government and wars that maim the whole area
Think we have refugees now? wait until over population truly impacts and millions flee
Too those wars, if one gets truly big a million refugees will be seen in one year
A hungry fear filled human will not sit around and wait to die
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 29 September 2019 12:21:50 PM
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Misopinionated,

Christ, this is like trying to talk to an autistic sixteen-year-old.

In developing countries, there are usually no pension systems. So families need to have a lot of kids, given that some will die, so that there will be someone to look after the older people when they can't work any longer.

So in developing societies, the burden falls on women to get married early, have a lot of kids, and forgo any chance of education - plus be under the thumb of men all their lives.

But given the inevitable demographic transition (god, what have I let myself in for ? That means high fertility and a change to low early mortality and longer life-spans, so a period of rapid population growth), which means women don't have to have so many kids. Combined with a progressive push for better women's rights, this may mean much more education for girls and a postponement of marriage, combined with a lower birth rate.

The more choice women have about how and when to have kids in those circumstances, the lower the birth rate required to reproduce society. Even Foucault might maybe have been aware that as birth rates decline, women's education - and rights generally - improve. Nah. Too interested in little North African boys.

China is a case in point, since you are obsessed with Chinese immigration - one outcome of the one-child policy has been the massive improvement in women's education and therefore their employment opportunities - at home and overseas. So win-win - as our population growth falters, more women can migrate to Australia and take up the slack.

Jesus, there's a lot of big words there, Misopinionated. Ask a nearby kid what they might mean.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 29 September 2019 1:09:15 PM
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