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Real scientists rebel.

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As with Communism and Nazisim, the fascist AGW Leftists value young people in their movement.

Get them early and they are a force for the future.

Kids are impressionable and easier than adults to manipulate.

Peer pressure reinforces all the time.

Children are naive and ignorant, with no knowledge of the past.

Kids have the energy adults don't.

Kids are all too ready to kick over the traces, to rebel just for the sake of rebelling.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 9:32:32 AM
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Collective action has the power to bring about
change. People may be just drops but together
they can become an ocean

Historically significant change is often brought about
by the organized efforts of a social movement - a
large number of people who have come together to bring
about or resist some social or cultural change.

National and international social movements that
demand action - are
a persistent feature of the Western world.
We're all familiar with anti-war movements.

The Vietnam war came to an end largely as a result of the
antiwar movement, a social movement that consisted
disproportionately of young people, including many college
students.

When the antiwar movement first challenged the war, it
received little support from politicians
or the press, and its goals seemed almost
hopeless. But the tide of public opinion
gradually began to shift.

In the 1968 presidential primaries , an antiwar candidate
backed by student volunteers did unexpectedly well and
President Johnson decided not to run for re-election.

From that point on, political debate on the war focused not
on how to stay in it, but on how to get out of it.
Through collective action, ordinary people with few resources
other than their own determination had changed a national
consensus for war to a national consensus for peace.

We should not under estimate the collective actions of
individuals. As history has shown - great things can be
achieved.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 10:37:23 AM
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Of course, this teenage hissy fit was just a waste of time, money, emotions and resources; it might as well have never happened. I was away during it; never thought about it - for all intents and purposes it didn't happen. Millions of people, unstuck from the media, would have had the same experience.

Nothing will come of it. The naive expectations of young naifs and misfits will never be satisfied by politicians who have to answer to voters, not voteless kids who will just have to wait their turn, and who will hopefully get a bit of gumption before they take over for their own sakes.

It's a bit like ignoring the ABC: if you don't watch or hear their BS, things will be the same. Your life will not change, nor will the world - certainly not because of the ravings of ignoramuses and activists who the politicians, for all their other faults, ignore in favour of the 'quiet majority'. People who live their little lives via overheated social media and scare-mongering media don't get this. The self-preservation instincts of politicians rule, not mobs and ratbags.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 11:36:19 AM
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OR, when a few un-informed, minority have an agenda contrary to the govt of the day, there is another word for it, and it's not a good or nice word.
Minorities have always made their demands known, more often than not by just being plain bloody annoying and disturbing/distressing the greater and majority of the public, to satisfy their own mis-guided self interests.
Anti war rallies being praised might appeal to some, but what about the many who are suffering because of the govt or bad elements causing the people to suffer.
If it wasn't for military intervention, those people would be worse off.
So we know nothing about what is really going on, politically, and that's why these rallies are just annoying and merely demonstrate the fact that there are a small minority that want to take control for their own selfish end.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 11:43:08 AM
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Minority influence has been used effectively by
movements throughout various centuries to shape
public opinion and it still continues as we know -
today.

During the 1910s the Suffragette movement challenged the
status quo to gain voting rights for women.
The Civil Rights movement in the US during
the 1950s and 1960s used minority influence
to gain support for the equal rights of citizens.
The Feminist movement achieved a great deal as did the
Gay Liberation organisations. Same Sex Marriage legislation
being passed in many countries.

We have people fighting for disability rights, the care
of the elderly, mental health issues, the right to die,
people against family violence, child abuse, sexual
abuse, men's rights, people for religious rights,
freedom of speech, and so many other issues.

If we did not have these things happening we would not
have new ideas, change or growth. And yet we do - have
done, and will continue to do.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 1:41:08 PM
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It's sad when we see people so narrow minded as to focus so much time, energy, resources and money to these minor and pathetic, self serving causes that only benefit a small minority of the population, and add nothing to the overall well being of same population.
In comparing the vote, we find that half the people get their way and the other half don't.
This is a clear definition of discrimination.
I know it sounds bizarre, but there you have it.
As part of a minority I want things, but I can't have them because the majority say otherwise, so why is it that some minorities get what they want and the rest don't?
Because they are a pain in the arse and annoy the crap out of those in power, and along with a little incentive, blackmail and a leg up here and there, along with a lobbyist again with some financial incentive, we suddenly get these 'social" changes, with clear advantages to the minorities, at the expense and disregard of the majority.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 3:22:03 PM
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