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Time for a Royal Commission into the government's Robodebt fiasco?

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This is from a Senates Estimate session looking into the Government's use of Robodebt calling.

Senator SIEWART: 11:32AM Mr. Hank Jongen,Can you confirm the documents I have that show you have indications of 6 people ending their lives due in part for receiving a debt?

Mr. Hank Jongen: 11:33AM Well that's a rough assumption of the figures senator and unfair to place the blame on our Department.

Senator SIEWERT: 11:33AM How is it Sir, they didn't have a debt before and the notes I have here clearly show that several of these people left notice as the reason they ended their lives,is the debt your department issued. So again sir,is the number 6 or more?

Mr. Hank Jongen: 11:34AM Six is correct from the data we have senator.

Senator WONG: 11:35AM Senator may I ask a follow on?

Senator SIEWART: 11:35AM Of course Senator Wong.

Senator WONG: 11:35AM Mr Jongen, may I ask how many of those people later on review owed any funds to your department?

Mr. Hank Jongen: 11:36AM Only 1 Senator.

Senator WONG: 11:36AM Mr Jongen Do you not feel any shame in your part in this?

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6 lives is likely to be the full number.

If we can have a Royal Commission into the Pink Batts saga which claimed 4 lives why can't we do the same for this?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 9:01:13 PM
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Sorry, that should have been 6 deaths are unlikely to be the full number.

Indeed there are estimates that the figure could be as high as a couple of thousand.

The 6 mentioned above are those where the robodebt was specifically mentioned prior to the person taking their lives for example in the note left by the victim.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 8:35:50 AM
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Well what do you know. SR has moved even further left, past communism to a fully fledged green supporter.

I've always had the feeling he was more than just the dill he has portrayed himself as on the Forum.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 10:28:11 AM
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Isn't this Senator Wong a member of the crowd that has been at the forefront of social engineering ? Better call her Senator Kettle !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 10:33:20 AM
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Dear Hasbeen,

How's it going old cock? Good?

I will admit to being a little bemused that you deem caring about Australians suiciding because of Robodebt calls was exclusively the domain of people to the left of you.

I actually raises the question of how far to the right you would have to be not to care.

Obviously at your level on the spectrum and beyond is a default position. Anning level? Obviously. Dutton level? Probably. Scomo level? A maybe. Trent Zimmerman? Probably not far enough to the right to be included.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 10:45:52 AM
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Hey SteeleRedux;

I don't care much for Penny Wong, but I can't argue with the issue.
I accept the logic that there'd certainly be more than the 6 reported cases; though I wouldn't like to speculate what the number is.
It's right that the governments policies be put through the wringer on this issue, if the policies are leading to the deaths of Aussie citizens.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 11:00:25 AM
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