indy are you trying to blame the victims of murder
or the fact they [you say] had warning transfers the blame to them
not sure how you justify the extreme act of a country out of control as ok
at that time under its then government lead by a man unworthy to lead that country was out of control

Belly,
Will you please refrain from twisting words ! [you say] I said "I heard" ! The subject came up with some Indonesian soldiers who heard that themselves.
Crossfire is not Murder, especially when the victims go out of their way to get into the line of fire ! Would you call a driver who runs over a mobile phone reading pedestrian who walks in front of the car a Murderer ?

cross fire? RUOK mate

Belly,
Were you there & seen otherwise ? I wasn't ether. I heard that from an Indonesian soldier who heard it from other soldiers. All we got here is the ABC version !