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The Way The World Is.

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Dear Mr. Opinion,

«Life on Earth started when a certain type of molecule developed the capacity to alter itself. And as they say the rest is evolution.»

Perhaps, but why are you addressing this to me?

I couldn't care less how biological life on earth started, like a prisoner couldn't care less what exact alloy his chains are made of, who made them, how when and where. All that matters to me is how to become free of this bondage of addiction to biological life-forms and the various sufferings and limitations that emerge from this bondage.

In Hinduism, the creator of this world and all life therein is named Brahma.
Very few worship him! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41Wx3LQ0n6s
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 19 August 2019 11:51:00 PM
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To Mr. Opinion.

Let me put it differently. God can be found. It no longer becomes a philosophical matter at that point. If I could find God as a kid, then so can you. So can anyone. On the other hand, if you look for God and don't find Him it still doesn't concern philosophical conundrums and what if questions all the way down. Just a practical didn't find God, or did find God. I'm of the stance that if I can find Him, so can you or anyone else find Him.

Though the importance of finding God and searching for God dwarfs the topic here about how the world came to be, I was hoping to explore that topic as well. I can do both if you want, but I'm not a scholar nor a prophet. Keep that in mind if you have a question or a challenge that I don't have an answer to, or can't perform a sign or something for you. The truth is encouraging though that if someone like me can find God, then you don't have to be a scholar to do so, nor do you have to be perfect either. That's one thing I can offer plenty of is encouragement for the search. I can also offer what I've found to be true while in the search for God, and what seems to be off the wall. I don't think all ideas are equal or all from God, making it important to search for what's true, while distinguishing what's possible and what isn't. So I can also offer what I've come across in those aspects as well.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 4:36:41 AM
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To SteeleRedux.

Abiogenesis? Hmmm. Sounds interesting. Just a quick Google search shows that it's still missing the mark to bridge complex molecules to living organisms. But it's at least a start. That's the sort of thing I'm looking for in this conversation. Other explanations.

As for the God of the gaps criticism. I'll tell you this to set the record straight. I already know that God exists. With that in mind there are a few running theories about how the world came to be, while acknowledging that God is real. I would separate the theories into two broad categories.

1) The "Windup the universe" theories place God as a creator but then just leaves after setting things in motion. Letting the universe run smoothly and naturally happening ever sense. This set of perspectives can range from God creating the earth, and then leaving, to God creating the universe and letting it be after that. Anything in-between when God created the world (or the universe) and present day is thought to be like a clock working on it's own after being wound up. Depending on the theory of how far back to credit to God before the natural mechanics take place can make some in this perspective come to the conclusion that the Earth was made through natural phenomenon and that life started through natural phenomenon.

2). The active God perspective. As the description suggests, God didn't just leave, but still holds an active influence in the world around us as well as an active role of setting the world in place.

(Continued)
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 5:25:14 AM
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I'm puzzled why God creates us & then leaves us at the mercy of those he created with a sinister streak & then tells us to just have faith & all will be goo
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 7:20:37 AM
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According to the Hebrew scriptural text God created, all chemistry in the universe, the beginning of life and the human mind. The rest he gave the chemistry of the Earth and water and air the power to bring forth all living things. The fact of the human mind is evidence God is a mind of order in the universe, disregard of or disobedience too brings chaos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfQ_HJl9l0g
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 8:09:02 AM
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Dear individual,

It's because God is all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-caring. PS Only joking of course!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 9:08:08 AM
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