Bazz wrote: "The real problem will be that so much money and academic and political prestige has been invested into the current mindset..."

Max Planck once opined "Science advances one funeral at a time."

Reputations, careers and wealth have been built around the whole CO2 story and the high priests of the movement will not easily surrender their positions. Entire organisations as well as government departments and political careers are reliant on the continued acceptance of the CO2 hypothesis.

It will take new eyes and willingness to consider new ideas to slowly breakdown the edifice that AGW has become. But as more and more scientists look at alternate thinking and begin to pursue new/old ideas like that of the Svensmark theory, things will slowly change. Then we'll suddenly see some media come to realise that there's a story there and the flood-gates will open. If you look back at how the 'Plate Tectonics' theory was originally fiercely reject by 'the consensus' but eventually broke through, you'll get some idea how this will evolve around AGW. But there are a lot more people invested in AGW so it'll take a lot more effort and time for the theory to be overturned. Things like the Italian petition (see above) are steps in the right direction and may encourage others to step forward, one hopes.

There's plenty of data and support out therefore for the Svensmark theory but this has always been my favourite summary of it...
http://calderup.wordpress.com/category/3b-the-svensmark-hypothesis/

Dear Belly,

The only form of political system that has a chance of saving humankind from its own destruction is a socialist one. It is the only one that can control human progress equitably. Unbridled capitalism with its increasing global consumerism and unsustainable use of the planet's resources will bring humankind to extinction.

Unbridled capitalism with its increasing global consumerism and unsustainable use of the planet's resources will bring humankind to extinction.
I agree with that but not the first part re socialism. In my work I found the socialists (Labor voting public servants) to be the far more greedy !

Dear individual,

You didn't by any chance make a living as a comic book writer did you?

I wonder, was Mr O indoctrinated to radicalism at university, or was he already a radical ratbag before he got there.

Come on Mr O, stop monkeying around, give us your full communist blast.

Mr Opinion well a truth both sides of the house in fact had Socialist policy in part until about Howards win
Health education housing welfare infrastructure, the list is long
Capitalism with a heart is my view of what we can achieve
Scandals however like the recent banking royal commission, and the almost hidden crimes of scomos refugees [members] may along with the coming GFC drive a socialist return