Foxy,

Shorten wasn't popular largely because of his dodgy past, but he was still more popular than Tony Abbott who thrashed labor in 2013.

The problem for labor in QSL was largely that having won the state election the labor government went hard left and in doing so alienated most of the people living outside central Brisbane. Bob Brown's caravan of Melbourne inner city greenies went down like lead balloon and probably sealed the deal for the LNP. Notably that in WA where supposedly there was strong support for state labor, federal labor made no progress either.

In my opinion, Labor's downfall was relying on feedback from labor faithful and assuming that the rest of the country would come in line.

Not near as much dodgy past as some think
Believing Conservative propaganda is fooling some
Bit shocked at his so called sexual assault or whatever it was
He lost contact with workers over that poor agreement, [no union should ever forget the exist for the worker not the boss]
Yes he was not trusted by enough to swing the election

While the Labor party are foolish enough to elect sharp operators like Shorten, & totally out of his depth fools like Albanese as their leaders, I'd say the Libs have more future than they currently deserve.

I think the current swing is towards more and more
Independents and this trend will continue. People
are getting sick and tired of slogans, toeing the
party line, finger-pointing,
and most of all, excuses which include -
inaction on climate change, Newstart, Energy, and
last but not least - corruption. Crown Casino comes
to mind and needs investigation.

Did anyone watch Q&A last night?

I've not seen so many aggressive questions
from the audience addressed to both the
Liberal and Labor MPs. People appeared angry and
frustrated. The only person who did well was
Zali Steggall - the Independent.

While ever people like Hasbeen are willing to bad mouth the Labor party and Albo based only on his biases we will progress toward government
Albo wears nothing of the taint Bill did and he is the right man at the right time
51 Billion wiped off the stock exchange today, if this continues?
Nothing is forever even John Howard fell