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JULIAN ASSANGE - HERO OR VILLAIN?

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Do we all understand the sex thing is minor in comparison to the charges against him
In Fact having read and researched that part long ago, he is charged only highlight only, because in that county failing to wear a condom is a crime
Both women said the sex was not forced on them, but on meeting each other filed because he did not wear a condom
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 3:27:35 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«Also, will Australia do anything for an Australian citizen?
Can they do anything?»

Not any more. It could when Assange was still under house arrest very close to a beach: it was easy then to send a naval ship, submarine or helicopter to rescue him under night's cover, but it did not, it wouldn't do it for me, it wouldn't do it for you either... unless of course you were a relative of a government-minister.

Neither hero nor villain, just an idiot: with all the money and following he had, he had ample opportunities to escape, including from the Ecuadorian embassy, so many years to prepare, so many eager to help, but he missed them all and even bitten the hand which fed him, preferring to stay and "prove" some silly point over his freedom.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 3:47:46 PM
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Dear Belly,

Thanks for that - and spot on!

mhaze,

Wow, you're on a roll with "Get Foxy Day!"
You must have too much time on your hands
old chap.

What Deputy Director of Public Prosecution in
Sweden Eva-Marie Persson did say was -
"The investigation has not been resumed and we
don't know today whether it will be.
We cannot set a timetable for when such a decision
will be made."

Belly's point about not wearing a condom is very
relevant. As is the language that Swedes use - and
what they consider as " rape." is relevant also in
this case.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 3:57:35 PM
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Dear Yuyutsu,

I think it was a change of government in Ecuador
that prompted Assange's arrest in the UK.
The new government in Ecuador wants better
relations with the US. And of course humouring
Trump is important.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 4:07:56 PM
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Dear Hassie,

Talking about Trump?

You say he loves information? You've got to be
kidding. He refers to any information as "fake
news" unless it's in his favour. Like he did
with WikiLeaks which he "Loved" when it
helped damage Hillary Clinton. Now Trump's
looking out for his own interests (who knows
what else is going to be revealed?).
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 4:12:19 PM
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Somewhere in Foxy's latest post to me there is an admission that when she said "Both women admitted that they lied" she was utterly, outrageously wrong.

And somewhere in Foxy's latest post to me there is an admission that when she said Obama had decided against pursuing poor Julian she was utterly, outrageously wrong.

But you have to know how to read Foxy-ese. Because she doesn't admit she was wrong. Never. She just drops the issue as though it never happened and moves on to other rubbish. I don't know why she can't just say, "oh I was misled by my sources" or some such. But it seems genetically impossible for her to do so. And she'll whine if someone like me refuses to just pretend she'd never said what see said.

She's now quoting the same women I did who is saying no decision has been made about re-opening the Assange prosecution. Logically, if the accusers had admitted they lied then no one would be considering opening the case.

Belly is somewhat right about the issue being condoms. Right and irrelevant. Firstly the second women said he penetrated her sans condom while she slept. Be that as it may, the incidents happened in Sweden and Swedish law applies. IF he did what is alleged, he broke the law and that's the end of it. That you or I might think it was a minor infraction is entirely beside the point.

As to Trump, the now unsealed indictment against Assange dates to long before Trump came to power

"Get Foxy Day!"

Its not about getting Foxy. Its about getting the truth. That Foxy and the truth are usually diametrically opposed is just happenstance.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 6:44:56 PM
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