Dear mhaze,

You dribbled;

“Do you poor souls never give up on you're this-time-we've-got-Trump rhetoric.”

My goodness you lot are so defensive about your President that you just make things up. Where in Loudmouth's post did he even insinuate this was going to impact Trump? Or see him off? There was none.

To paraphrase your goodself;

'How do people like yourself who seem reasonably logical and well-read become so moronic when defending Trump?'

SR and Foxy,

While not making a judgement on Kim Darroch's assessment, I do agree with the commentary I listened to on the BBC, which is that given the previous leakage of diplomatic postings and the embarrassment it caused, Kim could have given the "unvarnished" assessment just as well without using the highly disparaging hyperbole that he did.

During this program the questions were raised as to whether:
1 - The postings were leaked because of the juicy language used and,
2 - If less inflammatory language were used, whether Trump would have frozen Kim out.

However, once the posts were made public, the reality is that Kim's term as ambassador was effectively over. The depth of the opprobrium Kim had heaped on Trump effectively made his position untenable, and it would have been pure folly for Boris Johnson to unconditionally support Kim.

IF we could read the comments of every Diplomate about the country he/she serves in?
Remember before you condemn this man, only those with a need to know should have read this
Too it seems more than likely Brexit had a roll in this, too we may be close to uncovering the leaker
And those best served by the leak
Trump, this mornings leak reports, killed the agreement with Iran, *to spite Obama*
We desperately need to hear views other than the ones Trump's lap dogs give us about this deeply disturbed man

Once upon a time, in a land long long gone, there was a reason for ambassadors. In fact in the days when it took 6 months minimum to get a message from the UK to Oz they were very important people. Even as recently as 50 years ago, when it was impossible to get a message privately around the world by radio, they still had a function.

Now private conversations between leaders are possible, & occur regularly, they are merely expensive ceremonial stuffed shirts, with no useful function to full fill.

The whole diplomatic service is merely an expensive acronym, without which we could do quite well. A few clerks to shuffle the paperwork would be much less expensive, & more efficient to boot. Their only use is as a place to kick upstairs, the less useful of the politicians & bureaucrats, who would be better for us, home tending the roses.

A British columnist has written that Darroch's criticism of Donald Trump ignores his communicative genius. The dopey diplomat isn't up with the "really remarkable" fact that a 73 year old man is a master of all forms of social media which did not exist until his 6th and 7th decades of life. A Trump tweet can as decisive an expression of power as Roman emperor's thumbs-down in a gladiatorial arena.

At some future time, after Trump is unmasked as the fraud and fool he is rereading our comments will be telling
Here a man who has befriended his country's enemies, and insulted its friends has followers who if asked ,could not give a rational reason they like him
It has always been so with con men, actually putting their wants and wishes on him even if he never shares them
Here a British Diplomat, well respected, has had his emails released, just as Clintons appeared mid election
Whoever released them and for what reason, will be highlighted soon