ALTRAV,

For you to put a nail in my coffin as you put it
or have any kind of influence on me - I would
have to respect your opinion. And how on earth
can I do that when you really have no idea
what this topic is about or what's involved
here. You're coming across like some of the
typical Aussie bigots that lived in our
neighbourhood and who I used to avoid. And,
considering that you supposedly are of Italian
ancestry - that is so disappointing. to say the
least. I really expected more from you.

Anyway, I shall leave you to your kindred spirits
on this forum. There's plenty of them around.

Foxy,

"So what's to stop them now - the same thing that's stopped them for decades.

"The Australian Government."

With thirty billion dollars a year going into Indigenous communities, you may have to explain in a bit more detail how the Australian Government is stopping people from exercising their self-determination.

Or not. Now that you've got the hump, you can ignore this post. Up to you.

joe

Foxy, thank you, and you have a nice day, now y'hear?
Now back to business.
The fact that I have a certain background gives me NO special rights over ANY other Aussie, especially when it comes to matters involving other Aussies.
And that is the truth.
Heck I don't even have the right to my own life.
It's illegal to commit suicide.
I am clear and convinced in my own mind that even though I am Italian by blood, I am Aussie by birth.
Foxy has shown her hand again and her weakness, which betrays her and her views.
She calls me a bigot, that's OK I know I am, but she also fails to see that she is one too.
By her seeing me as a particular kind of person, then showing her displeasure at the realisation that I am not this person I should be, according to her, is just the type of thing she abhors herself.
I'm not sure what the allegation is exactly.
Is it that because I present as a foreigner, I should be stereotypical of foreigners and their compliance to an unfounded dogma because I am to humble myself being of foreign blood, and given the privilege or fortune to live in Australia, is that it?
I, on the hand am perplexed at her continual promotion of matters which are clearly not correct.
It is as if she lives with Alice; IN WONDERLAND!
There is absolutely no substance to this stupid unjustified push for giving the blacks a voice, or being dispossessed, in other words ALL the things she goes on about are a fiction created by greedy zealots and promoted by naive and unrealistic zealots.

ALTRAV,

An Englishman wants to marry an Irish girl and is
told he needs to become Irish before he can.

It's a very simple operation where they remove 5%
of your brain.

Anyway, the Englishman wakes up after the operation and the
doctor comes up to him looking all worried and says,

"I'm terribly sorry, there's been a mistake, to be sure.
We accidentally removed 50% of your brain instead of 5%"

The Englisman sits up and simply says,

"She'll be right, mate!"

I would like to address two issues.
Firstly, the Uluru statement was not representative of aboriginal people. Those who attended that meeting were not selected or elected by local aboriginal people, they were chosen by high level aboriginal people in positions of power. People like Patrick Dodson, who hasn’t lived in his home area for decades and has no idea of the problems happening there. Or Nolan Hunter, who doesn’t inform anyone in the Kimberley outside his selected group, when any important elections are being held.
And for Foxy, the issue of personal responsibility. I cannot even hazard a guess as to how government is stopping aboriginal people from being responsible for themselves and their families.
It’s not the governments job to get kids off to school every morning, fed and clean and having had a good nights sleep.
It’s not the governments job to keep their houses clean so that they keep healthy.
It’s not the governments job to provide a safe environment for kids so they don’t wander the streets at night because the streets are safer than at home.
I’m currently involved with the welfare of one of my granddaughters who lives in a remote community in the Kimberley. When I complained that the school hadn’t reported to welfare that she was going to school dirty and hungry and so tired she was falling asleep in class the response I got was, “ but half the kids in the school are like that!”
The problem Foxy, is not that the government stops people from taking personal responsibility, it’s that the government doesn’t reenforce it and aboriginal children are treated like second class citizens by their own families.
Change that, and the gap will close.

Foxy,

Fascinating ! So how much of yours did they take out ?

Joe

PS. I take exception to the misuse of the Irish in this way. If anything, scientific studies have shown repeatedly that the mass migration of Irish to England raised the English IQ by several points, but without diminishing the Irish average IQ at all. Win-win !

Yes, I made that up.